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   From: mars1933@hotmail.com   
      
    Gottfried is also attuned to Jewish hypocrisy on Israel, noting   
   that Jewish activists like Alan Dershowitz and Abe Foxman defend the   
   idea that Israel must be a Jewish state, while having no sympathy for   
   the idea that America should be defined as a White, Christian   
   republic. They are openly concerned about Palestinian demographics in   
   Israel, but have no concern about the eclipse of White America.   
      
    Zionists in the West attack all opposition to massive   
   displacement-level immigration as incipient fascism, but defend the   
   idea of a Jewish state. Gottfried devotes particular venom to   
   David Frum, who strongly desires Israel to remain an ethnically Jewish   
   state but "notoriously raged against Sam Francis in 'Unpatriotic   
   Conservatives' . . . for advocating 'a politics devoted to the   
   protection of the interests of what he [Francis] called the   
   'Euro-American cultural core' of the American nation.'" And he makes   
   the points that while liberal Jews (the vast majority) "are inclined   
   to be multiculturalists because they fear and distrust a   
   Christian majority, "White Christians . . . chase after 'diversity'   
   because they are self-dismissively throwing away their civilization."   
      
    There is no concern for the interests of other Americans. Only   
   Jewish interests matter. Old historical grudges must never be   
   forgotten. Revenge must be had. The hated White, Christian America   
   must be destroyed.   
      
    In a remarkable passage-remarkable because such self-awareness is   
   so rare among Jews-Gottfried is quite aware of how his ethnic blinders   
   as a Jew may color his perception of Israel:   
      
   The question is whether I would [support Israel] absent certain fac-   
   tors: for example, if I had no Jewish blood, if members of my family   
   had not fled Hitler and gone to Israel, and if my son-in-law were not   
   an Israeli military officer. The answer is probably not. In this other   
   reality I would be focusing . . . on Israeli's most boisterous   
   advocates, including the neocons' underlings at National Review and   
   The Weekly Standard. I would also be noticing all the others who run   
   around sliming any critic of Israel as an anti-Semite or   
   Holocaust-denier. Like Taki Theodoracopulos and Pat Buchanan, I would   
   be sick of such defamers and their manipulation of the American Right.   
   And such passions might affect my judgment about Israel ("Ilana,   
   Israel and the Paleos").   
      
   THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL   
    Although associated with the Frankfurt School, Gottfried is well   
   aware that it is an exemplar of Jewish activism (see also Chapter 5 of   
   The Culture of Critique). In a review of a biography of Theodor Adorno   
   ("Bourgeois Radical"), he notes "Adorno's demonstrable contempt for   
   bourgeois Christian society" and the Frankfurt School's "hostilities,   
   which in some cases seem to stem from an ostentatious sense of Jewish   
   marginality, in a variety of desperate radical positions, from hating   
   their own country long before the Nazis rose to power to pouring   
   affection on Communist dictatorships."   
      
    He attributes to the Frankfurt School a large responsibility for   
   what is ailing the West today-the "political correctness" that "would   
   be unthinkable without the influence of Adorno and the Frankfurt   
   School."   
      
    What comes through is that Marcuse, like so much of the mainstream   
   Jewish community to this day, simply detested the West and wanted to   
   see it destroyed. "Like other members of the Frankfurt School-most   
   notably Theodor Adorno, with whom he had been associated since the   
   early 1930s-Marcuse claimed to detest bourgeois civilization and   
   supposedly wished to see it destroyed."   
      
    One wonders why Gottfried included "supposedly" in this sentence,   
   especially because in the next paragraph he asks what connection   
   Marcuse had to the civilization which "he professed to despise." The   
   hatred was real, and one can only recall the glee with which Jews   
   destroyed the traditional culture of Russia and were complicit in the   
   murder of millions (see my "Stalin's Willing Executioners: Jews as a   
   Hostile Elite in the Soviet Union"6). Jewish hatreds have had huge   
   real world consequences that are of urgent importance to White America   
   as it sleepwalks into its non-White majority future dominated by a   
   hostile Jewish elite.   
      
    Dialectic of Enlightenment also develops a theory of anti-Semitism   
   based entirely on Western pathology and in which Jewish behavior is   
   completely irrelevant. Anti-Semitism is the result of "the will to   
   destroy born of a false social order." This is exactly the kind of   
   baseless, poisonous theory of anti-Semitism that feeds into Jewish   
   hostility toward the West and warrants the destruction of the West as   
   an ethnocultural entity.   
      
    Gottfried notes "the self-evident truth that much of the radical   
   project of the Frankfurt School was attributable to the Jewishness of   
   its founders. Without their sense of marginalization and the attendant   
   hostilities, they would not likely have been so contemptuous of   
   ordinary, non-adjusted bourgeois."   
      
    Gottfried has been a fair critic of my work. In one case, he took   
   me to task for not getting at the depths of Jewish hatred for the   
   traditional American nation:   
      
   Kevin MacDonald has hardly scratched the surface in delineating the   
   nastiness with which the children and grandchildren of Eastern Eu-   
   ropean Jewish immigrants clawed their way to the top of the academ-   
   ic-media industry, on the backs of those they often despised. And all   
   the while they appealed with brilliant success to a guilty WASP con-   
   science.9   
      
    The only criticism I have of Gottfried from the present collection   
   is that there is no real analysis of why the mainstream Jewish   
   community hates the people and culture of the West so much. An   
   analysis in terms of "marginality" or "marginality grounded in   
   theological difference" is simply not enough. Such an analysis   
   implicitly blames Jewish hostility on non-Jewish society that has   
   regarded Jews with distaste or outright hostility, and it disregards   
   Jewish behavior as being part of the equation. For example, in the   
   early twentieth century when radicalism and support for the Bolshevik   
   Revolution were rampant in the Jewish community, negative attitudes to   
   ward further Jewish immigration were well-founded to say the least,   
   particularly given the long-term effects of Jewish immigration that we   
   see now. And, as Gottfried would doubtless acknowledge, the   
   hostilities of Jewish radicals during the period were based on   
   previously existing hostility intimately connected to their Jewish   
   identity.   
      
    Jewish self-perceptions as a persecuted group feed into these   
   hatreds. For most Jews, Jewish history in the West is a lachrymose   
   litany of unjust and irrational persecutions-their views warped by   
   their profound ethnocentrism that biases their perceptions and   
   sharpens their hostility. Jewish historical memory is profoundly   
   tinged by Jewish ethnocentrism.   
      
    Further, Jewish hatred has been instrumental in toppling the   
      
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