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|    David Hartung to All    |
|    Hitler Was A White Rightwing Christian W    |
|    01 Apr 17 03:59:02    |
      XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.atheism       From: david-hartung@hotmail.com              Was Hitler Christian? Here's a page of quotes showing that       Hitler apparently was, indeed, Christian. Others have managed       to dig up quotes that would seem to show that Hitler was an       atheist, a deist, a Pagan, or an occultist of some kind.       Personally, I suspect that Hitler, like many political leaders,       saw religion as a tool to be used for political ends, and that       what he had to say about religion depended on who he was       talking to at a given moment. Since the majority of Germans       were Christians, it was obviously in his best interests to       appeal to Christians if he wanted to attain and keep political       power. It is also not clear that he was genuinely Pagan, etc.,       either, rather than just trying to rally different kinds of       racists and Jew-haters.              If today's neo-Nazis are to have even the remotest chance of       attaining power, they too will need to appeal to Christians,       because the majority of white people are Christian. Let us now       consider the consequences of neo-Nazism's need to appeal to       Christians.              What kinds of Christians would most likely be attracted to neo-       Nazism? Obviously, not the more tolerant sorts. In the vast       majority of cases, a Christian who tolerates people of other       religions is likely also to reject racism - or at least to       reject such blatant forms of racism as are espoused by the neo-       Nazis, even if they may still be racist in more subtle ways.              Furthermore, racialist ideology itself is all about preserving       a "cohesive people" (as even Joy of Satan founder Maxine's       husband Cliff Herrington put it in one of his speeches -       here's a brief audio excerpt). Preserving a "cohesive people"       necessarily involves culture as well as race; and culture       certainly does include religion. Hence it is only natural for       many racialist ideologues to oppose religious diversity, just       as they oppose racial diversity within a given region.              Many neo-Nazis and many other White Nationalists consider       religious diversity to be "culturally decadent." Naturally they       consider Satanism to be even more "decadent."              These same neo-Nazis and many other White Nationalists might       nevertheless be willing to put aside their religious       differences with other White Nationalists in the short run, for       the short-term strategic purpose of being able to work together       with other White Nationalists. But this doesn't mean they would       continue to be religiously tolerant if/when their desired White       Nation were ever to come into existence.              A Christian neo-Nazi will in most cases believe that       Christianity has been a vital part of the culture of the white       Western world for the past 2000 years and is therefore the       religious tradition that must be preserved in the West, albeit       perhaps in modified form such as Christian Identity. Hence neo-       Nazi Christians will most likely favor efforts to keep the       Western world Christian and will therefore reject, on       principle, the very idea of religious tolerance even toward       other mainstream religions, let alone toward Satanism - at       least in the long run.              Thus, neo-Nazi Christians are likely to support the agenda of       the Christian religious right wing. Moreover, they are likely       to see the religious right wing as a good recruiting ground for       neo-Nazism. (This may be one of the reasons why some neo-Nazi       groups have focussed on anti-gay activism.) Hence I would       expect to see more and more religiously intolerant Christians       joining the neo-Nazi movement. And their prevalence will       inevitably shape the agenda of the larger neo-Nazi movement       itself, hardening the White Nationalist movement's already       strong bias against "multiculturalism" and hence against       religious diversity.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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