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   Message 4,125 of 4,278   
   David Johnston to Greg Carr   
   Re: WW2 Nazis Escaped Prosecution   
   21 Apr 17 22:17:47   
   
   XPost: can.politics, alt.politics.socialist.nazi   
   From: davidjohnston29@block.com   
      
   On 4/21/2017 8:27 PM, Greg Carr wrote:   
   > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:48:46 -0600, David Johnston   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 4/20/2017 10:05 PM, Greg Carr wrote:   
   >>> Kept secret for nearly 70 years, a trove of United Nations war crimes   
   >>> files made public this week contains early evidence of Nazi death   
   >>> camps that was smuggled out of Eastern Europe into Allied hands.   
   >>>   
   >>> “It was unknown that the Allies prepared prosecutions of Adolf Hitler   
   >>> and the rest of the Nazis for the death camps in Europe while the   
   >>> Nazis were still in power and while they were still running occupied   
   >>> Europe,” says British historian Dan Plesch, whose new book Human   
   >>> Rights After Hitler delves into the files of the United Nations War   
   >>> Crimes Commission (UNWCC).   
   >>>   
   >>> “There are many such dossiers of legally prepared indictments of   
   >>> Hitler and other Nazis for many of their crimes, including the   
   >>> extermination of the Jews, and these were drawn up long before D-Day.”   
   >>>   
   >>> Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy   
   >>> at the University of London, said in an interview that as early as   
   >>> 1942, Allied leaders publicly condemned a Nazi project to exterminate   
   >>> Jews that they knew was underway.   
   >>>   
   >>> The full extent of the Holocaust, which killed six million Jews, was   
   >>> revealed when concentration camps were liberated in the final stages   
   >>> of the Second World War, but the Polish government in exile had   
   >>> earlier provided detailed descriptions of atrocities in such camps as   
   >>> Auschwitz and Treblinka.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Related   
   >>> German prosecutor turning around his country’s poor record at   
   >>> convicting SS soldiers   
   >>> This 95-year-old Holocaust survivor has a roommate — a 31-year-old   
   >>> granddaughter of Nazis   
   >>> Archaeologists unearth human bones near site where Nazi scientists   
   >>> experimented on Holocaust victims   
   >>> Plesch said that the early evidence suggests that in 1942 and 1943,   
   >>> more could have been done to rescue Jews from the Nazis by using   
   >>> escape routes through France and the Balkans — parts of Europe that   
   >>> were not yet under Nazi control.   
   >>>   
   >>> “You can’t say that people didn’t know,” Plesch said. “They did know   
   >>> and still didn’t act.” And once the war was over, he added, “there was   
   >>> a great deal more evidence and a great deal more that could have been   
   >>> done to prosecute than was done.”   
   >>>   
   >>> Allied states including Canada, the United Kingdom and the United   
   >>> States created the UNWCC in 1943 and co-operated on the investigation   
   >>> of more than 36,000 international criminal cases between 1943 and   
   >>> 1948. Plesch writes in Human Rights After Hitler that an American   
   >>> shift in emphasis from punishing Nazis to combating communism led to   
   >>> the closing of the UNWCC.   
   >>>   
   >>> “The commission’s files contained indictments against thousands of   
   >>> Nazis who were then allowed to go free,” he writes. While people   
   >>> remember the trials of top Nazi officials at Nuremberg, the UNWCC’s   
   >>> pursuit of underlings has been largely forgotten.   
   >>>   
   >>> At the urging of U.S. intelligence officials, the UNWCC files were   
   >>> classified and public access was prohibited. More recently,   
   >>> researchers were granted access on the condition that they not take   
   >>> notes. Plesch led an effort to persuade diplomats to release the   
   >>> secret material.   
   >>>   
   >>> You can’t say that people didn’t know. They did know and still didn’t   
   >>> act   
   >>> He said he stumbled upon the vast archive when he found reference to a   
   >>> UNWCC form outlining charges brought by Canada against SS commander   
   >>> Kurt Meyer. Meyer was convicted of ordering the 1944 murders of 20   
   >>> Canadian prisoners of war in Normandy, France.   
   >>>   
   >>> Plesch said the evidence of war crimes contained in the files   
   >>> “provides a whole hardware store of nails to hammer in the coffin of   
   >>> Holocaust denial. This is a huge trove of prosecutions of the   
   >>> Holocaust from during World War II, legally authorized documentation.”   
   >>>   
   >>> He said the archive also offers a lesson today as atrocities continue   
   >>> to be committed in Syria and elsewhere.   
   >>>   
   >>> “They had a very effective, low-cost system for prosecuting low-level   
   >>> perps, and we badly need something like that today,” he said.   
   >>>   
   >>> “If they could be taking evidence from people escaping from under the   
   >>> jackboot of the SS, why aren’t we doing the same when it comes to   
   >>> people escaping from Syria?”   
   >>>   
   >>> ((Why dont they care about the pedophiles and rapists and organized   
   >>> crime criminals in Canada.   
   >>   
   >> I was unaware that Canada had stopped prosecuting cases of rape and   
   >> child pornography.   
   >   
   > A senior citizen in Surrey was beaten and raped a few years ago and   
   > her perpetrator recieved 13 years today. If we had a justice system it   
   > would be death.   
      
   That is not what the expression "justice system" means.   
      
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