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   Message 4,126 of 4,278   
   Dhu on Gate to David Johnston   
   Re: WW2 Nazis Escaped Prosecution   
   22 Apr 17 15:22:28   
   
   XPost: can.politics, alt.politics.socialist.nazi   
   From: campbell@neotext.ca   
      
   On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:17:47 -0600, David Johnston wrote:   
      
   > On 4/21/2017 8:27 PM, Greg Carr wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:48:46 -0600, David Johnston   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 4/20/2017 10:05 PM, Greg Carr wrote:   
   >>>> Kept secret for nearly 70 years, a trove of United Nations war crimes   
   >>>> files made public this week contains early evidence of Nazi death   
   >>>> camps that was smuggled out of Eastern Europe into Allied hands.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “It was unknown that the Allies prepared prosecutions of Adolf Hitler   
   >>>> and the rest of the Nazis for the death camps in Europe while the   
   >>>> Nazis were still in power and while they were still running occupied   
   >>>> Europe,” says British historian Dan Plesch, whose new book Human   
   >>>> Rights After Hitler delves into the files of the United Nations War   
   >>>> Crimes Commission (UNWCC).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “There are many such dossiers of legally prepared indictments of   
   >>>> Hitler and other Nazis for many of their crimes, including the   
   >>>> extermination of the Jews, and these were drawn up long before   
   >>>> D-Day.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and   
   >>>> Diplomacy at the University of London, said in an interview that as   
   >>>> early as 1942, Allied leaders publicly condemned a Nazi project to   
   >>>> exterminate Jews that they knew was underway.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The full extent of the Holocaust, which killed six million Jews, was   
   >>>> revealed when concentration camps were liberated in the final stages   
   >>>> of the Second World War, but the Polish government in exile had   
   >>>> earlier provided detailed descriptions of atrocities in such camps as   
   >>>> Auschwitz and Treblinka.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Related German prosecutor turning around his country’s poor record at   
   >>>> convicting SS soldiers This 95-year-old Holocaust survivor has a   
   >>>> roommate — a 31-year-old granddaughter of Nazis Archaeologists   
   >>>> unearth human bones near site where Nazi scientists experimented on   
   >>>> Holocaust victims Plesch said that the early evidence suggests that   
   >>>> in 1942 and 1943,   
   >>>> more could have been done to rescue Jews from the Nazis by using   
   >>>> escape routes through France and the Balkans — parts of Europe that   
   >>>> were not yet under Nazi control.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “You can’t say that people didn’t know,” Plesch said. “They did   
   know   
   >>>> and still didn’t act.” And once the war was over, he added, “there   
   >>>> was a great deal more evidence and a great deal more that could have   
   >>>> been done to prosecute than was done.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Allied states including Canada, the United Kingdom and the United   
   >>>> States created the UNWCC in 1943 and co-operated on the investigation   
   >>>> of more than 36,000 international criminal cases between 1943 and   
   >>>> 1948. Plesch writes in Human Rights After Hitler that an American   
   >>>> shift in emphasis from punishing Nazis to combating communism led to   
   >>>> the closing of the UNWCC.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “The commission’s files contained indictments against thousands of   
   >>>> Nazis who were then allowed to go free,” he writes. While people   
   >>>> remember the trials of top Nazi officials at Nuremberg, the UNWCC’s   
   >>>> pursuit of underlings has been largely forgotten.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> At the urging of U.S. intelligence officials, the UNWCC files were   
   >>>> classified and public access was prohibited. More recently,   
   >>>> researchers were granted access on the condition that they not take   
   >>>> notes. Plesch led an effort to persuade diplomats to release the   
   >>>> secret material.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You can’t say that people didn’t know. They did know and still   
   didn’t   
   >>>> act He said he stumbled upon the vast archive when he found reference   
   >>>> to a UNWCC form outlining charges brought by Canada against SS   
   >>>> commander Kurt Meyer. Meyer was convicted of ordering the 1944   
   >>>> murders of 20 Canadian prisoners of war in Normandy, France.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Plesch said the evidence of war crimes contained in the files   
   >>>> “provides a whole hardware store of nails to hammer in the coffin of   
   >>>> Holocaust denial. This is a huge trove of prosecutions of the   
   >>>> Holocaust from during World War II, legally authorized   
   >>>> documentation.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He said the archive also offers a lesson today as atrocities continue   
   >>>> to be committed in Syria and elsewhere.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “They had a very effective, low-cost system for prosecuting low-level   
   >>>> perps, and we badly need something like that today,” he said.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> “If they could be taking evidence from people escaping from under the   
   >>>> jackboot of the SS, why aren’t we doing the same when it comes to   
   >>>> people escaping from Syria?”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ((Why dont they care about the pedophiles and rapists and organized   
   >>>> crime criminals in Canada.   
   >>>   
   >>> I was unaware that Canada had stopped prosecuting cases of rape and   
   >>> child pornography.   
   >>   
   >> A senior citizen in Surrey was beaten and raped a few years ago and her   
   >> perpetrator recieved 13 years today. If we had a justice system it   
   >> would be death.   
   >   
   > That is not what the expression "justice system" means.   
      
   It means we're gonna park him long enough that he won't   
   be a danger to the rest of us when he gets out.   
      
   Dhu   
      
      
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