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   From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com   
      
   In article , Lefty    
   wrote:   
      
   > > One of the oldest arguments in the book.  If God is eternal and   
   > > created the Universe, you have to ask what he was doing before he   
   > > created it, and why he created it.  If there was nothing prior to the   
   > > universe, why would there be an omnipotent god in the middle of all   
   > > that nothingness and what was the point of his existence?   
   >   
   > Unfortunately, the presumption is that what we experience in our   
   > existence is the sum total of all knowledge available in the universe.   
      
   Space, time, and causality are only defined within this universe. If there is   
   an   
   outside of the universe, we don't know what that would be like. Arguing over it   
   is a waste of time.   
      
   > There are no creation arguments to be made. The creation stories are all   
   > silly fables not meant to be taken literally. Unless someone can come   
      
   As far as the bible is concerned, the relationships among the players in the   
   game are the most important, god to human, human to human, not how the game was   
   created. A few chapters offer an explanation of the creation, but the entire   
   book is about relationships.   
      
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