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|    Tim Howard to All    |
|    Fidel Castro denounces anti-Semitic Ahma    |
|    10 Sep 10 09:18:03    |
      XPost: soc.culture.iranian, alt.politics.media, alt.activism       XPost: soc.culture.israel       From: tim.howard@suddenlink.net              Now if only he could convince his friend Hugo Chavez to stop associating       with this fanatic.                     Fidel to Ahmadinejad: 'Stop Slandering the Jews'              Sep 7 2010, 12:06 PM ET              Part of a three-part interview by the Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg.              Castro opened our initial meeting by telling me that he read the recent       Atlantic article carefully, and that it confirmed his view that Israel       and America were moving precipitously and gratuitously toward       confrontation with Iran. This interpretation was not surprising, of       course: Castro is the grandfather of global anti-Americanism, and he has       been a severe critic of Israel. His message to Benjamin Netanyahu, the       Israeli prime minister, he said, was simple: Israel will only have       security if it gives up its nuclear arsenal, and the rest of the world's       nuclear powers will only have security if they, too, give up their       weapons. Global and simultaneous nuclear disarmament is, of course, a       worthy goal, but it is not, in the short term, realistic.              Castro's message to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran, was not       so abstract, however. Over the course of this first, five-hour       discussion, Castro repeatedly returned to his excoriation of       anti-Semitism. He criticized Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust and       explained why the Iranian government would better serve the cause of       peace by acknowledging the "unique" history of anti-Semitism and trying       to understand why Israelis fear for their existence.              He began this discussion by describing his own, first encounters with       anti-Semitism, as a small boy. "I remember when I was a boy - a long       time ago - when I was five or six years old and I lived in the       countryside," he said, "and I remember Good Friday. What was the       atmosphere a child breathed? `Be quiet, God is dead.' God died every       year between Thursday and Saturday of Holy Week, and it made a profound       impression on everyone. What happened? They would say, `The Jews killed       God.' They blamed the Jews for killing God! Do you realize this?"              He went on, "Well, I didn't know what a Jew was. I knew of a bird that       was a called a 'Jew,' and so for me the Jews were those birds. These       birds had big noses. I don't even know why they were called that. That's       what I remember. This is how ignorant the entire population was."              He said the Iranian government should understand the consequences of       theological anti-Semitism. "This went on for maybe two thousand years,"       he said. "I don't think anyone has been slandered more than the Jews. I       would say much more than the Muslims. They have been slandered much more       than the Muslims because they are blamed and slandered for everything.       No one blames the Muslims for anything." The Iranian government should       understand that the Jews "were expelled from their land, persecuted and       mistreated all over the world, as the ones who killed God. In my       judgment here's what happened to them: Reverse selection. What's reverse       selection? Over 2,000 years they were subjected to terrible persecution       and then to the pogroms. One might have assumed that they would have       disappeared; I think their culture and religion kept them together as a       nation." He continued: "The Jews have lived an existence that is much       harder than ours. There is nothing that compares to the Holocaust." I       asked him if he would tell Ahmadinejad what he was telling me. "I am       saying this so you can communicate it," he answered.              Castro went on to analyze the conflict between Israel and Iran. He said       he understood Iranian fears of Israeli-American aggression and he added       that, in his view, American sanctions and Israeli threats will not       dissuade the Iranian leadership from pursuing nuclear weapons. "This       problem is not going to get resolved, because the Iranians are not going       to back down in the face of threats. That's my opinion," he said. He       then noted that, unlike Cuba, Iran is a "profoundly religious country,"       and he said that religious leaders are less apt to compromise. He noted       that even secular Cuba has resisted various American demands over the       past 50 years.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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