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   From: Then-Destroy-Everything@Blackhole.NebulaX.com   
      
   On 10/21/2010 12:25 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   > On Oct 21, 11:49 am, Beam Me Up Scotty  Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:   
   >> On 10/21/2010 11:11 AM, cpt banjo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Oct 21, 9:05 am, Beam Me Up Scotty >> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> Doesn't it read that way?   
   >>   
   >>>> Or do you simply interpret what ever you want....  The fear was of an   
   >>>> all powerful Federal Government like a KING.  States still had "rights"   
   >>   
   >>> That's the way it was in the beginning, but the 14th Amendment changed   
   >>> things.  States no longer have the right to deny due process or equal   
   >>> protection of the laws.   
   >>   
   >> Equal under the law, doesn't mean we all have to have the same laws in   
   >> every State.... Once the State passes a law.... it must be "enforced   
   >> equally"   
   >>   
   >> [Section 1.   
   >> All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the   
   >> jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State   
   >> wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall   
   >> *abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens* of the United States;   
   >> nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,   
   >> without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its   
   >> jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.]   
   >>   
   >> So Federal citizens can't have their "right" under Federal law abridged   
   >> by State laws.   
   >>   
   >> That is redundant of the supremacy clause......   
   >>   
   >> The State can NOT pass laws to remove "rights" that are given to the   
   >> people or given to the United States(Federal Government).   
   >   
   > Doesn't the First Amendment specify such rights (freedom of religion,   
   > speech, press, assembly, petition), so the states cannot pass laws   
   > (such as criminalizing Judaism, or shutting down a newspaper, or   
   > putting Tea Party protesters in prison) that abridge them?   
      
      
   It is a right that the people have in the sense that the Federal   
   government is NOT given that power....  We can then abdicate that right   
   to the State government since NOWHERE in the constitution does it deny   
   that power to the States. That's in Amendment #10.   
      
      
   One State can have a law on religion different from the State next to   
   it, the Congress has no power to pass any law to ban States or people   
   from any religious activity that doesn't infringe on others "rights".   
      
      
   A State may not force you to pray....  But they can hold a voluntary   
   prayer in the State buildings.   
      
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