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   XPost: alt.america, alt.politics.religion, alt.politics.usa.constitution   
   XPost: misc.education   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 10/23/2010 5:59 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   > On Oct 23, 8:53 pm, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 10/23/2010 5:12 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> On Oct 23, 7:59 pm, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/23/2010 4:56 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>> On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/23/2010 4:05 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> On Oct 23, 6:46 pm, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 10/23/2010 12:03 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> So, are you arguing the states can prohibit the free exercise of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> religion (e.g., criminalize Judaism)? or abridge the freedom of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> speech and the press (e.g., shut down a newspaper it disagrees   
   with)?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> or abridge the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> petition the Government for a redress of grievances (e.g., imprison   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Tea Party protesters)?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Due process: An established course for judicial proceedings or other   
   >> governmental activities designed to safeguard the legal rights of the   
   >> individual. AHD, 3rd ed.   
   >>   
   >> In each of your examples, was an established legal course followed and   
   >> were the legal rights of the individual protected? If yes, then the   
   >> prohibition is legal.   
   >   
   > Let's assume so. And to be specific, New Jersey passes a law which   
   > criminalizes political protests by Tea Party members. The accussed   
   > protestors have all the standard legal rights - trial by jury, burden   
   > of proof on the prosecution, cross examiniation, appeals, etc.   
   >   
   > And it is your claim this law is Constitutional?   
      
   Per the due process of XIV, yes.   
      
   Per privileges and immunities of XIV, probably not.   
      
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