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   Message 61,015 of 62,757   
   Peter Franks to Josh   
   Re: The "Witch" Does it Again, Sticks He   
   27 Oct 10 16:40:01   
   
   XPost: alt.america, alt.politics.religion, alt.politics.usa.constitution   
   XPost: misc.education   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 10/27/2010 4:30 PM, Josh wrote:   
   > On 10/27/2010 5:54 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 10/27/2010 2:15 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>> On Oct 27, 1:48 pm, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/26/2010 11:28 PM, Josh wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The *protection* of rights (enumerated) in Amendment I are   
   >>>>>>>>>> privileges of   
   >>>>>>>>>> US citizens.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And that answers your original question as to how 'the term   
   >>>>>>>>> "Congress"   
   >>>>>>>>> mutates to "government"' in the First Amendment.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>> XIV explicitly refers to "state".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> Let me guess. You think a city government can put in you jail for   
   >>>>>>> attending a Tea Part rally without violating the federal   
   >>>>>>> constitution?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> No, city and county governments are clearly within the umbra of   
   >>>>>> "state".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Good. Then, what's your problem?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No problem; just wondering when "state" mutated to "government", as in   
   >>>> /federal/ government.   
   >>>   
   >>> Let me guess again. You think the President can issue an executive   
   >>> order that prevents executive-branch employees from attending a Tea   
   >>> Party protest without violating the federal constitution?   
   >>   
   >> While 'on the clock', most definitely. Off the clock, they are just PORC   
   >> (plain old regular citizens) and executive orders have no effect, so   
   >> they could attend whatever they wanted.   
   >>   
   >> If you disagree, please describe where such orders are prohibited.   
   >   
   > How about an executive order that prohibits executive-branch employees   
   > from wearing any religious symbol (e.g., yarmulke) while on the job.   
      
   Yes.   
      
   If you disagree, please describe where such orders are prohibited.   
      
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