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   gordo to ray   
   Re: Fact:Despite What Brainwashed Righti   
   22 Jan 11 20:45:19   
   
   From: grmerrick@shaw.ca.remove   
      
   On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:13:50 -0500, ray  wrote:   
      
   >In article ,   
   > Wayne  wrote:   
   >   
   >> ray wrote   
   >>   
   >> > In article   
   >> > ,   
   >> >  Werner  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Jan 22, 5:57 pm, Ignorant Fox News Rightist    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> > We're Number Two: Canada Has as Good or Better Health Care than the   
   U.S.   
   >> >> > ...   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I spend summers in a small village in Canada. During the past 2 years   
   >> >> a handful of people have died of various cancers. I didn't hear   
   >> >> anything about these folks getting treatment. Complaints about health   
   >> >> care are frequent and wide spread. Most of it deals with shortages and   
   >> >> wait times.   
   >> >   
   >> > I'm a truck driver in the Cleveland area and get to bullshit with the   
   >> > Canadian drivers.  I too bring up healthcare coverage.  What I've found   
   >> > is that the younger to middle-aged drivers love the system while the   
   >> > older and more sickly drivers tell me to keep what we have in the US.   
   >> > The Canadian system is great for a broken arm, the flu, and simple   
   >> > surgeries that are not real life threatening.  But when the serious   
   >> > conditions come up, those people would rather be in the US getting   
   >> > treatment.   
   >> >   
   >>   
   >> Many say that all Bush's failures are Obama's fault.   
   >>   
   >> They wonder why he refuses to fess up and take responsibility.   Why do   
   >> leftists hate accountability?   
   >>   
   >> Things were great when the economy was collapsing, our banks were   
   >> failing and we were bleeding 700,000 jobs under Bush.  Obama's wrecked   
   >> everything. It all started when he took charge.   
   >>   
   >> How can 4 million Fox News viewers be wrong?   
   >>   
   >> Besides, health care isn't about hospitals and doctors, it's about who   
   >> insures the patients.  And we all know that there just isn't enough   
   insurance   
   >> to go around these days because millions have no coverage and still millions   
   >> more are under insured.    Why!  If we insured everyone that would mean   
   >> rationed health care!  Not like it is today!   
   >   
   >This is true, but a study by the Blue Cross revealed at least half of   
   >those uninsured are capable of getting some sort of coverage either   
   >through existing government entities or are able to afford coverage for   
   >themselves.   
   >   
   >As a personal example, my employer provides us with coverage.  It's not   
   >great coverage, but it's satisfactory for most of us.  Some have spouses   
   >who have better coverage, so my employer pays them a higher wage to   
   >compensate them for not being on our plan and instead, their spouses.   
   >   
   >We have one employee who is married and had three children.  To get the   
   >higher wage, he opted out of our healthcare coverage. His wife didn't   
   >work so she had no coverage either.  When his daughter became ill with   
   >diabetes, he was frantic.  Somehow, he got the state to pay for all her   
   >medical care in spite of his refusal to use the coverage our company   
   >provided.   
   >   
   >My coworker and his family of five are part of this so-called 40 million   
   >without healthcare coverage, and I'm sure there are many more just like   
   >him--especially among younger adults.   
   >   
   >So do we have a problem with people unable to be covered, or do we have   
   >a problem with people not taking responsibility to be covered?  It's   
   >probably half and half if you ask me.  But that does not justify   
   >destroying the medical care system we have for this very small   
   >percentage of our population.   
   BC Canada 2002.Diagnosed with throat cancer.8 weeks later after   
   radiation treatment went home,fully recovered today.2004 wife   
   diagnosed with cancer 8 months later passed away.Brother diagnosed   
   with cancer 2009 in Alberta.Passed away April 2010.Total cost for   
   treatment in all three cases 0 .Alberta and BC health care system paid   
   the bills.Treatment fast,efficient and world class.In Victoria where I   
   received treatment there were Americans and I shared a room at the   
   cancer lodge with a German.You have nothing like this in the US and   
   you are behind most of the world.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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