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   Message 61,183 of 62,757   
   Alan Baker to Gary L. Burnore   
   Re: What kind of idiots ride public tran   
   12 Feb 11 16:16:19   
   
   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: alangbaker@telus.net   
      
   In article ,   
    Gary L. Burnore  wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:33:41 GMT, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net   
   > (Matthew Russotto) wrote:   
   >   
   > >In article ,   
   > >dr_jeff   wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>So? Having a car costs around $100 a week. That can be put to other   
   > >>things, like retirement funds. Sounds like a good idea to me. Saving   
   > >>money is a good thing.   
   > >   
   > >Having a car does not cost $100/week.   
   >   
   > (for you).   
   >   
   > >On the other hand, my public transit commute does cost $90/week.   
   > >   
   > >>You forgot reason #7:   
   > >>   
   > >>Taking the bus or subway is often more convenient than driving. For   
   > >>example, during rush hour, I can go from lower Manhattan to the Bronx or   
   > >>Brooklyn in 1/2 hour. You can't do that by car, even if you have lights   
   > >>and a siren.   
   > >   
   > >The large majority of the time (which includes almost all the time in   
   > >places in the US other than NYC), the car is more convenient.   
   >   
   > Bullshit of course.  Do you really think large and medium sized cities   
   > are exempt from gridlock?  Do you think sitting in traffic on a   
   > freeway is more convenient than the rail line running next to it?   
      
   How many people can truly live without an automobile?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > "Often"   
   > >is vastly overstating the case unless you restrict yourself to NYC.   
   > >(and Lower Manhattan to the Bronx in 1/2 hour is pushing it; you've   
   > >got to catch the right subway without any waiting)   
   >   
   > You're equating speed with convenience.  They are not the same.   
      
   How else would you measure it?   
      
   --   
   Alan Baker   
   Vancouver, British Columbia   
      
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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