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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com   
      
   On 2011-02-16, Phlip  wrote:   
   > On Feb 16, 7:04 am, Brent  wrote:   
   >> On 2011-02-16, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the   
   Bullshit Campaign  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> I don't do anything of the sort. You assume wrongly that opposing your   
   >> >> central planning is endorsing someone else's. That's the mentality   
   >> >> fostered by the status-quo ruling class. It is designed to pit people   
   >> >> against each other such that they remain with the power. The real   
   >> >> threat isn't your views, it's views of actual freedom. Your revolution   
   >> >> is a controlled revolution, a change of puppets.   
   >>   
   >> > "MY STRUGGLE IS NOT AGAINST THE PUPPET BUT AGAINST THE PUPPETEER"   
   >> > That's the name of the game, so don't worry.   
   >>   
   >> You want central planning. That's what the puppeteer wants. Reject   
   >> central planning and then you'll be against the puppeteer. So long as   
   >> central planning exists, the puppeteer wins.   
   >   
   > You got it aaall figured out, huh? Capitalist central planning is   
   > GUUD, but central planning we can VOTE on is BAAAD, huh?   
      
   Another prime example of controlled thinking. like the monkey you can   
   only think in terms of fighting and controlling your fellow citizens   
   through one means or another. Tyranny of the majority through the vote   
   is just as much tyranny as it is from a king or dictator or any other   
   ruling class. Like the crony capitalists, fascists and others that   
   symbolize the central planning you don't like you fear a message of   
   freedom, one that rejects central planning from any "side". I find your   
   attempts to shove me into a box amusing and ultimately a demonstration   
   of your limited thinking and your true desire to tell everyone else how   
   to live.   
      
   You are just the same as the people you hate. Cut fundamentally from the   
   same cloth. You simply lack the power.   
      
   > Oh, BTW, back to Curitiba...   
   >   
   > The population density is 4000 Curitibanos per square kilometer, or   
   > 4000 per million square meters. That's 250 square meters per citizen,   
   > so let's give 50 to parks, 100 to roads & services, and 50 to   
   > businesses. That leaves 50 square meters per citizen to live in.   
   >   
   > This is sardine cans?   
   > Tell us where you live, so we can look up its population density and   
   > compare, okay? Put some numbers where your mouth is?   
      
   Your strawman argument is irrelevant to what I wrote. I presented simple   
   math that demonstrates the unintended results of your central planning.   
   That was it. Instead of dealing it with that fact honestly you've   
   constructed and knocked down a strawman.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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