XPost: alt.activism, alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.conservative   
   From: xxxrayted@aol.com   
      
   In article ,   
    Voltaire  wrote:   
      
   > >> Maybe you should try to get out more. Make better friends of pay more   
   > >> attention. If you look harder you might see things in a better light.   
   > >> I doubt very much that "most" and Laugh in my face" are really what   
   > >> you see. You seem very bitter and want some payback for you   
   > >> disillusions.   
   > >   
   > >Spending over ten years in the medical equipment business, I've seen   
   > >much more than you.   
   >   
   >  I appreciate your over active imagation as you have no idea what I do   
   > or what I have seen. More proof of your ignorance and self facination.   
      
      
   What? Do you think you are the only one of your kind?  Hardly, in fact,   
   there are hundreds of your kind that I converse with all the time.  Just   
   from what you wrote in this topic, I know you better than you would   
   imagine. I used to have neighbors just like you until the neighborhood   
   started to change and they all packed their bags and headed for higher   
   grounds.  Now they preach from a new soapbox only in a different   
   neighborhood.   
      
      
      
   > >> So the cases where people have to make a decision between food and   
   > >> meds are all a bunch of lies.   
   > >   
   > >Not at all.  But that's the working class that have to make that   
   > >decision, not people on government assistance where the working pay for   
   > >it.   
   >   
   >  You live in a social environment no matter what your thinking process   
   > may  be. For that same reason I have to pay for those that have chosen   
   > to live an unhealthy life style when I purchase insurance.  I get no   
   > rebate because I am older and in far better shape then that obsess guy   
   > next door. I pay more simply because I am older.   
      
   The difference is you elect to purchase insurance.  I didn't elect to   
   support lazy people who play the system and don't want to work.   
      
   > >> >And I'm the one people consider inconsiderate.  Well sorry.  But there   
   > >> >is something wrong with a system where the working live less comfortable   
   > >> >lives than the non-working.   
   > >>   
   > >>  I am sorry but you don't seem to be living in the real world. I don't   
   > >> think you would be comfortable no matter where or how you live.   
   > >   
   > >Correct, not as long as the so called poor live better lives than the   
   > >working.  That's why I'm for change.  And I would bet a years paycheck   
   > >that you live far from the environment you describe.  You may visit   
   > >it... work with it, but you don't live it.  When you live it, then you   
   > >can preach to others who also do the same.   
   > >   
   >  You are the one that is preaching and assuming I must be something   
   > you dislike and have not lived or seen. I have worked with people that   
   > have benefited from short time assistance and have seen the positives.   
   >   
   >  I also have known women that have regularly worked the food   
   >  stamp program for decades. There is no way that can be stopped. These   
   > people will do it forever with no chance of ever being stopped. I know   
   > of elderly people that would die if not for  the same program. I see   
   > both sides but it seems you only see one. I feel sorry for you.   
      
   Feel anything you desire.  But if not for political expediency, we would   
   be able to sort out those in need and those who play the system now   
   wouldn't we?  Then people like myself would join your side and support   
   your cause.  But it's just so much easier saying your side is right and   
   my side is wrong, or that you feel sorry for me.   
      
   > >If you take 1/4 cup of rotten, stale milk, and mix that with 3/4 cup of   
   > >fresh wholesome milk.  You only have one thing, and that is a cup of bad   
   > >milk.   
   >   
   >  By the same rules you would think because you have one unfortunate   
   > disabled person that may be blind and receiving government assistance   
   > the whole neighborhood has gone to hell.   
   >   
   >  You have not ansered my  question. What would you care do with these   
   > people? Dispose of them  because there are some that don't deserve any   
   > help?   
      
   Not at all.  I want to help those people.  It's just that for every one   
   person like that I help, there are twenty that could help themselves but   
   would rather take advantage of our social stupidity.   
      
   Good people don't abandon their home because a blind man lives next   
   door.  They leave when their pizza place closes up because of too many   
   robberies.  They leave when the police are constantly speeding past   
   their house because of another call of shots being fired.  They leave   
   when their child is threatened or physically harmed in school because of   
   gangs.  They leave when they can't sleep at night because the HUD people   
   are smoking pot, drinking wine and staying up all night partying.  They   
   leave because their property value is falling while their home and auto   
   insurance increase every year.  They leave because they can't walk their   
   dog at night without the fear of being victimized.   
      
   --   
   Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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