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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: otterpower@xhotmail.com   
      
   On 4/26/2011 8:25 AM, N8N wrote:   
   > On Apr 26, 8:17 am, Steve  wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:10:15 -0700 (PDT), N8N   
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   >>> On Apr 26, 7:51 am, Steve  wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the   
   >>>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
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   >>>>   wrote:   
   >>>>> On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser   
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   >>>>>>> But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras. They   
   >>>>>>> are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.   
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   >>>>>>> If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!   
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   >>>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.   
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   >>>>>>> Better   
   >>>>>>> yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect the   
   >>>>>>> people, as you claim to be the case.   
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   >>>>>> I made no such claim about signs.   
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   >>>>> Let me give you my thoughts:   
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   >>>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are   
   >>>>> meaningful and profitable...   
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   >>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful.  Anything that inhibits red light   
   >>>> running is meaningful.   
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   >>> Red light cameras don't inhibit RLRing.   
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   >> Of course they do.   
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   > What a thoughtful, well-reasoned response.   
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   > nate   
      
   As a matter of fact, the logic was stupefyingly overpowering. Emphasis   
   on the penultimate word.   
      
      
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   >>   Those who install RLCs have   
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   >>> no incentive to actually reduce the incidence of RLRing and every   
   >>> incentive to keep it artificially high.  They do so by cherrypicking   
   >>> intersections with engineering problems like short yellows and   
   >>> deliberately install RLCs there and only there without fixing the   
   >>> problems.   
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