XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: me@privacy.net   
      
   "Steve"  wrote in message   
   news:fccdr6d0kt7d11l40ji5sl9572ipriktp9@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the   
   > TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell  wrote:   
   >>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser   
   >>   
   >>> > But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras. They   
   >>> > are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.   
   >>>   
   >>> > If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!   
   >>>   
   >>> False dichotomy fallacy.   
   >>>   
   >>> > Better   
   >>> > yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect the   
   >>> > people, as you claim to be the case.   
   >>>   
   >>> I made no such claim about signs.   
   >>   
   >>Let me give you my thoughts:   
   >>   
   >>Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are   
   >>meaningful and profitable...   
   >   
   > Red Light Cameras are meaningful.  Anything that inhibits red light   
   > running is meaningful.   
      
   Simply increasing the yellow on time by one second has been shown to   
   decrease the most dangerous accidents by over 70%.   Red light cameras have   
   been shown to increase rear end accidents significantly.   
      
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