XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: crwlrjeff@yahoo.com   
      
   "Steve"  wrote in message   
   news:lvsdr6562v5l5trsg48vb36jrarhdk7la3@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:30 -0500, "NotMe"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Steve"  wrote in message   
   >>news:fccdr6d0kt7d11l40ji5sl9572ipriktp9@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the   
   >>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach   
   >>>>> Cruiser   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> > But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras.   
   >>>>> > They   
   >>>>> > are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > Better   
   >>>>> > yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect   
   >>>>> > the   
   >>>>> > people, as you claim to be the case.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I made no such claim about signs.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Let me give you my thoughts:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are   
   >>>>meaningful and profitable...   
   >>>   
   >>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful.  Anything that inhibits red light   
   >>> running is meaningful.   
   >>   
   >>Simply increasing the yellow on time by one second has been shown to   
   >>decrease the most dangerous accidents by over 70%.   Red light cameras   
   >>have   
   >>been shown to increase rear end accidents significantly.   
   >>   
   >   
   > So says you, huh?   
      
      
   Technically, almost everybody that knows this stuff says so. Technically.   
      
   It appears that you are one of the few that are not up to speed on this   
   issue.   
      
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