XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: dead@gone.com   
      
   On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:12:24 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:   
      
   > "Steve"  wrote in message   
   > news:lvsdr6562v5l5trsg48vb36jrarhdk7la3@4ax.com...   
   >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:30 -0500, "NotMe"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>"Steve"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:fccdr6d0kt7d11l40ji5sl9572ipriktp9@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the   
   >>>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach   
   >>>>>> Cruiser   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> > But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras.   
   >>>>>> > They   
   >>>>>> > are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that   
   >>>>>> > much.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> > If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> > Better   
   >>>>>> > yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not   
   >>>>>> > protect the   
   >>>>>> > people, as you claim to be the case.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I made no such claim about signs.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Let me give you my thoughts:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are   
   >>>>>meaningful and profitable...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful.  Anything that inhibits red light   
   >>>> running is meaningful.   
   >>>   
   >>>Simply increasing the yellow on time by one second has been shown to   
   >>>decrease the most dangerous accidents by over 70%.   Red light cameras   
   >>>have   
   >>>been shown to increase rear end accidents significantly.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> So says you, huh?   
   >   
   >   
   > Technically, almost everybody that knows this stuff says so.   
   > Technically.   
   >   
   > It appears that you are one of the few that are not up to speed on this   
   > issue.   
      
   He's getting more desperate in his trolling.  Nobody takes him seriously   
   any more.   
      
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