XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: gburnore@databasix.com   
      
   On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:17:07 -0400, Steve    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:10:15 -0700 (PDT), N8N    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Apr 26, 7:51 am, Steve  wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the   
   >>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>> >On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell  wrote:   
   >>> >> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser   
   >>>   
   >>> >> > But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras. They   
   >>> >> > are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> > If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!   
   >>>   
   >>> >> False dichotomy fallacy.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> > Better   
   >>> >> > yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect the   
   >>> >> > people, as you claim to be the case.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> I made no such claim about signs.   
   >>>   
   >>> >Let me give you my thoughts:   
   >>>   
   >>> >Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are   
   >>> >meaningful and profitable...   
   >>>   
   >>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful.  Anything that inhibits red light   
   >>> running is meaningful.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>Red light cameras don't inhibit RLRing.   
   >   
   >Of course they do.   
      
   See, no. They don't.  You think they do. But studies done by the   
   states that have them say otherwise.  In NC for example, they've   
   stopped using them.   
      
   >   
   > Those who install RLCs have   
   >>no incentive to actually reduce the incidence of RLRing and every   
   >>incentive to keep it artificially high.  They do so by cherrypicking   
   >>intersections with engineering problems like short yellows and   
   >>deliberately install RLCs there and only there without fixing the   
   >>problems.   
   >>   
   >>nate   
      
      
   That's it?  "Of course they do"?  Nothing more?   Feh.   
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