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   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: dead@gone.com   
      
   On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:52:44 -0400, Dave Head wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC), "6139 Dead, 1282 since   
   > 1/20/09"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:07:55 -0400, Dave Head wrote: AQ, eh.  So which   
   >>bridges have they blown up?  Be specific, now.   
   >   
   > They planned to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge, but were foild due to our   
   > depriving them of proper training facilities by going and kicking their   
   > asses in Afganistan, and waterboarding the hell out of KSM until he gave   
   > up the name of the guy that was going to do it.  They interecepted him   
   > in I think it was either Columbus or Cincinnati, Ohio.   
      
   Somebody in Afghanistan was planning on blowing up the Brooklyn bridge?   
   So who was the guy who was going to do it, and what evidence is there   
   that information extorted under torture was legitimate?   
      
   >   
   > Had we NOT been in Afghanistan and Iraq we might not have gotten KSM and   
   > then we likely would NOT have known of this guy and the Brooklyn Bridge   
   > would likely be at the bottom of the river now.   
   >   
   Um, bubbles?  Khalid was captured in Pakistan.   
      
   Not Iraq.  Not Afghanistan.   
      
   I note that he also claimed under torture that if OBL were captured or   
   killed, a massive nuclear explosion would go off in a major European city.   
      
   Care to tell us which city was destroyed?   
      
   >>The plans that never amounted to anything more than scribbles on the   
   >>back of a napkin?  Those plans?   
   >   
   > Exactly.  Those plans were prevented from coming to fruition due to our   
   > armed interference in Afghanistan and Iraq.  If we had never gone to the   
   > middle east, we likely would be witnessing these attacks succeed, and   
   > maybe you would even have to worry about getting blown up by an IED on   
   > your way to work.   
   >   
   >>If you want to worry about terrorists, worry about home-grown nazis with   
   >>arsenals.  What happened in Norway yesterday was the same as what   
   >>happened in OKC and Columbine here.  America has much more to worry   
   >>about from native right wing fruit loops then it does from the   
   >>thoroughly defanged al Qaida.   
   >   
   > We've only had one Timothy McVeigh over the years, just 1.  And, if we   
   > don't worry about the foreign terorists, we'll have the domestic   
   > terrorist PLUS the foreign terrorists making this place a scary place to   
   > live.  Wanna allow that to happen?   
   >>   
   >>And you know what?  All that money being spent on military shit won't do   
   >>a damn bit of good against terrorists, whether they are al Qaida or   
   >>local, because the entire PURPOSE of terrorist cabels is to nullify and   
   >>even defeat vastly superior military forces.   
   >   
   > Its not working out very well for them.  They keep losing high-ranking   
   > SOB's one after the other to our troops and to our predator drones.   
   >   
   > A defensive war is not a war you can win.  You have to go defeat the   
   > enemy, or you will eventually lose.  And you will suffer many dead.   
      
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