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   From: retired@home.com   
      
   Dånk 42Ø wrote:   
   > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:53:48 -0500, jigo wrote:   
   >> Dånk 42Ø wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:27:11 -0800, Tim Howard wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Every network should be reporting this.  NBC is the only one with   
   >>>> guts.   
   >>>>     US officials have finally admitted Israel is behind the   
   >>>>     assassination   
   >>>> of Iran's nuclear scientists.  Most US politicians will probably   
   >>>> applaud.   
   >>>   
   >>> Probably.  Think of how many Syrian lives could be saved if the CIA   
   >>> "solved" the problem of Bashar al-Assad.   
   >>>   
   >>> Given a choice between sanctions that won't work, a war that can't be   
   >>> won, or a single ten-cent bullet in the head of a genocidal dictator,   
   >>> which would you prefer?   
   >>   
   >> Iran does not have a "genocidal dictator." And Israel is not killing   
   >> leaders; they're killing scientists. A large portion of the Iranian   
   >> people don't like their government either, but attacking civilians this   
   >> way is only likely to make them unite behind the government rather than   
   >> change it.   
   >   
   > I was referring to Syria, but the dictator of Iran is also responsible   
   > for killing thousands.  And when Iranians tried to change their   
   > government in what they thought was a "election" in 2009, they soon   
   > realized who was in control.   
   >   
   > Israel's goal is to destroy Iran's nuclear program, not necessarily to   
   > topple the Iranian government.  This is a security issue, not a political   
   > one.  Now that Iran has satellite launch capability, it can strike the   
   > USA with nuclear warheads, making it a security issue for us, too.   
   >   
   > Back to Bashar al-Assad: There seems to be no way to resolve the crisis   
   > in Syria through diplomacy, and Assad becomes more homicidal every day.   
   > War will be unpopular and expensive, and will likely end up with Assad   
   > being executed on YouTube just like Saddam and Gaddafi, so it seems   
   > reasonable to avoid all that trouble and bloodshed by having the CIA   
   > "solve" the problem with a single bullet.  It would be impossible to   
   > prove who did it, either.   
      
      
   All this is no business of the U.S., or wouldn't be if we didn't keep   
   butting into other people's conflicts. If we support one side in a   
   conflict, the other is bound to regard us as its enemy and attack us.   
   If the U.S. minded its own business, like Switzerland, why would any   
   of these parties want to do us harm?  As it's been, the U.S. has spent   
   trillions of dollars and lost thousands of American lives because of   
   its involvement in the Mid-east.   
      
   We should heed the advice of the founders and Harry Browne:   
      
   "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in   
   extending our commercial relations to have with them as little   
   political connection as possible....'Tis our true policy to steer   
   clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign World."   
   --George Washington   
      
   "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship, with all nations - entangling   
   alliances with none....Our first and fundamental maxim should be,   
   never to entangle ourselves in the broils of Europe."   
   --Thomas Jefferson   
      
   "America...does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is   
   well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the   
   champion and vindicator only of her own."   
   --John Quincy Adams   
      
   "It has been the true glory of the United States," in "fulfilling   
   their neutral obligations with the most scrupulous impartiality . . .   
   to maintain sincere neutrality toward belligerent nations," and "to   
   exclude foreign intrigues and foreign partialities."   
   --James Madison   
      
   "Stand back and ask how this could have happened. Ask how a prosperous   
   country isolated by two oceans could have so embroiled itself in other   
   people's business that someone would want to do us harm. Even sitting   
   in the middle of Europe, Switzerland isn't beset by terrorist attacks,   
   because the Swiss mind their own business."   
   --Harry Browne   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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