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   From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <9o7gj75l2gktl4jnpevirq3q78iupi4te9@4ax.com>,   
    MattB  wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:18:08 -0800, Devil with the China Blue Dress   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >In article ,   
   > > MattB  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:49:43 -0800, Tim Howard   
   > >>  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >On 2/11/2012 9:32 PM, Dånk 42Ø wrote:   
   > >> >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:27:11 -0800, Tim Howard wrote:   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >>> Every network should be reporting this.  NBC is the only one with   
   > >> >>> guts.   
   > >> >>>    US officials have finally admitted Israel is behind the   
   > >> >>>    assassination   
   > >> >>> of Iran's nuclear scientists.  Most US politicians will probably   
   > >> >>> applaud.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Probably.  Think of how many Syrian lives could be saved if the CIA   
   > >> >> "solved" the problem of Bashar al-Assad.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> Given a choice between sanctions that won't work, a war that can't be   
   > >> >> won, or a single ten-cent bullet in the head of a genocidal dictator,   
   > >> >> which would you prefer?   
   > >> >   
   > >> >That sounds so simple doesn't it?  I will leave aside for a moment the   
   > >> >facts that such an action violates international law and amounts to an   
   > >> >act of war, which would be unconstitutional if not approved by Congress   
   > >> >first.  You probably don't care about things like that.  What I will say   
   > >> >is that many times the US has acted militarily in the world without   
   > >> >caring what anyone else thinks and no matter how well it seems to turn   
   > >> >out initially, those things come back to haunt us.  Maybe not for years   
   > >> >or even decades, but they come back to haunt.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >As for Israel, can we all admit to the fact the they have 80-200 nuclear   
   > >> >weapons themselves, and it would defy all logic for Iran to launch one   
   > >> >weapon at them, knowing they would get wiped out by Israel's 80-200?  By   
   > >> >not acknowledging this fact when discussing Iran, the US starts any   
   > >> >argument it makes about them from a knowingly false premise.   
   > >>   
   > >>   
   > >>   I always thought Iran would give a nuke to a terrorist group and   
   > >> deny any fault.  Strange thing is I believe Iran would be destroyed in   
   > >> either case.   
   > >>   
   > >>   I think what we have in Syria is a Proxy war.  The US and the Arabs   
   > >> against China, Russia and Iran.   
   > >   
   > >The US is not at war with China and Russia. China and Russia are upholding   
   > >the   
   > >principle of national sovereignity for others which the US claims for   
   > >itself. If   
   > >you want a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of Syria,   
   > >that   
   > >would also be a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of the   
   > >US--for example if the UN banned capital punishment in the US.   
   >   
   >   
   > Didn't say I wanted anything.  Just seems China and Russia love the   
   > terrorist supporter Iran.  The Arab league will do as they see fit.   
   > Russia and China have lost influence and when Assad falls so will   
   > Iran's influence in Lebanon..   
      
   No, China is a real stickler for national sovereignity: they are real sensitive   
   about criticism over Tibet. Russia doesn't want to discuss Chechnya and other   
   central Asian regions under its control. They don't want other countries poking   
   into their internal affairs, so they don't poke into other countries. The US   
   has   
   still not resolved the Black Hills dispute with the Sioux nation or dealt with   
   the illegal ethnic cleansing of the Cherokee.   
      
   It is the US that is the hypocrite: the US is always going around demanding   
   other countries change their governments or do this or do that, but whenever   
   another country criticises the US, we hide behind national sovereignity.   
      
   If you believe all men are created equal, you would want the same laws for   
   everyone, not one set of laws of your side, and different set for theirs.   
      
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