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   From: trdell1234@gmail.com   
      
   On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:51:34 -0800, Devil with the China Blue Dress   
    wrote:   
      
   >In article <9o7gj75l2gktl4jnpevirq3q78iupi4te9@4ax.com>,   
   > MattB  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:18:08 -0800, Devil with the China Blue Dress   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >In article ,   
   >> > MattB  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:49:43 -0800, Tim Howard   
   >> >>  wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >> >On 2/11/2012 9:32 PM, Dånk 42Ø wrote:   
   >> >> >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:27:11 -0800, Tim Howard wrote:   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>> Every network should be reporting this.  NBC is the only one with   
   >> >> >>> guts.   
   >> >> >>>    US officials have finally admitted Israel is behind the   
   >> >> >>>    assassination   
   >> >> >>> of Iran's nuclear scientists.  Most US politicians will probably   
   >> >> >>> applaud.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Probably.  Think of how many Syrian lives could be saved if the CIA   
   >> >> >> "solved" the problem of Bashar al-Assad.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Given a choice between sanctions that won't work, a war that can't be   
   >> >> >> won, or a single ten-cent bullet in the head of a genocidal dictator,   
   >> >> >> which would you prefer?   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >That sounds so simple doesn't it?  I will leave aside for a moment the   
   >> >> >facts that such an action violates international law and amounts to an   
   >> >> >act of war, which would be unconstitutional if not approved by Congress   
   >> >> >first.  You probably don't care about things like that.  What I will say   
   >> >> >is that many times the US has acted militarily in the world without   
   >> >> >caring what anyone else thinks and no matter how well it seems to turn   
   >> >> >out initially, those things come back to haunt us.  Maybe not for years   
   >> >> >or even decades, but they come back to haunt.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >As for Israel, can we all admit to the fact the they have 80-200 nuclear   
   >> >> >weapons themselves, and it would defy all logic for Iran to launch one   
   >> >> >weapon at them, knowing they would get wiped out by Israel's 80-200?  By   
   >> >> >not acknowledging this fact when discussing Iran, the US starts any   
   >> >> >argument it makes about them from a knowingly false premise.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   I always thought Iran would give a nuke to a terrorist group and   
   >> >> deny any fault.  Strange thing is I believe Iran would be destroyed in   
   >> >> either case.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   I think what we have in Syria is a Proxy war.  The US and the Arabs   
   >> >> against China, Russia and Iran.   
   >> >   
   >> >The US is not at war with China and Russia. China and Russia are upholding   
   >> >the   
   >> >principle of national sovereignity for others which the US claims for   
   >> >itself. If   
   >> >you want a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of Syria,   
   >> >that   
   >> >would also be a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of the   
   >> >US--for example if the UN banned capital punishment in the US.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Didn't say I wanted anything.  Just seems China and Russia love the   
   >> terrorist supporter Iran.  The Arab league will do as they see fit.   
   >> Russia and China have lost influence and when Assad falls so will   
   >> Iran's influence in Lebanon..   
   >   
   >No, China is a real stickler for national sovereignity: they are real   
   sensitive   
   >about criticism over Tibet. Russia doesn't want to discuss Chechnya and other   
   >central Asian regions under its control. They don't want other countries   
   poking   
   >into their internal affairs, so they don't poke into other countries. The US   
   has   
   >still not resolved the Black Hills dispute with the Sioux nation or dealt with   
   >the illegal ethnic cleansing of the Cherokee.   
      
      Seems they didn't have a problem with Libya.  Want to try again.   
   Maybe libya didn't support terrorist enough.   
   >   
   >It is the US that is the hypocrite: the US is always going around demanding   
   >other countries change their governments or do this or do that, but whenever   
   >another country criticises the US, we hide behind national sovereignity.   
      
      Seems you forgot it is the Arab league doing the asking.  They now   
   want a UN peacekeeping mission in Syria.  Arab and UN peacekeepers.   
   Hopefully no US troops needed.   
   >   
   >If you believe all men are created equal, you would want the same laws for   
   >everyone, not one set of laws of your side, and different set for theirs.   
      
      Muslims can't live by all men are created equal.  I mean we have a   
   Jewish State and a Muslim State and yet only one is wrong.   
      
   Hmmmmm   
      
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