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From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com
In article <4F3834E8.1040204@blackhole.nebulax.com>,
BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 2/12/2012 3:51 PM, Devil with the China Blue Dress wrote:
> > In article <9o7gj75l2gktl4jnpevirq3q78iupi4te9@4ax.com>,
> > MattB wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:18:08 -0800, Devil with the China Blue Dress
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article ,
> >>> MattB wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:49:43 -0800, Tim Howard
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/11/2012 9:32 PM, Dånk 42Ø wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:27:11 -0800, Tim Howard wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Every network should be reporting this. NBC is the only one with
> >>>>>>> guts.
> >>>>>>> US officials have finally admitted Israel is behind the
> >>>>>>> assassination
> >>>>>>> of Iran's nuclear scientists. Most US politicians will probably
> >>>>>>> applaud.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Probably. Think of how many Syrian lives could be saved if the CIA
> >>>>>> "solved" the problem of Bashar al-Assad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Given a choice between sanctions that won't work, a war that can't be
> >>>>>> won, or a single ten-cent bullet in the head of a genocidal dictator,
> >>>>>> which would you prefer?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That sounds so simple doesn't it? I will leave aside for a moment the
> >>>>> facts that such an action violates international law and amounts to an
> >>>>> act of war, which would be unconstitutional if not approved by Congress
> >>>>> first. You probably don't care about things like that. What I will
> >>>>> say
> >>>>> is that many times the US has acted militarily in the world without
> >>>>> caring what anyone else thinks and no matter how well it seems to turn
> >>>>> out initially, those things come back to haunt us. Maybe not for years
> >>>>> or even decades, but they come back to haunt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for Israel, can we all admit to the fact the they have 80-200
> >>>>> nuclear
> >>>>> weapons themselves, and it would defy all logic for Iran to launch one
> >>>>> weapon at them, knowing they would get wiped out by Israel's 80-200?
> >>>>> By
> >>>>> not acknowledging this fact when discussing Iran, the US starts any
> >>>>> argument it makes about them from a knowingly false premise.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I always thought Iran would give a nuke to a terrorist group and
> >>>> deny any fault. Strange thing is I believe Iran would be destroyed in
> >>>> either case.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think what we have in Syria is a Proxy war. The US and the Arabs
> >>>> against China, Russia and Iran.
> >>>
> >>> The US is not at war with China and Russia. China and Russia are
> >>> upholding
> >>> the
> >>> principle of national sovereignity for others which the US claims for
> >>> itself. If
> >>> you want a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of Syria,
> >>> that
> >>> would also be a legal basis for intervening in the internal affairs of
> >>> the
> >>> US--for example if the UN banned capital punishment in the US.
> >>
> >>
> >> Didn't say I wanted anything. Just seems China and Russia love the
> >> terrorist supporter Iran. The Arab league will do as they see fit.
> >> Russia and China have lost influence and when Assad falls so will
> >> Iran's influence in Lebanon..
> >
> > No, China is a real stickler for national sovereignity: they are real
> > sensitive
> > about criticism over Tibet. Russia doesn't want to discuss Chechnya and
> > other
> > central Asian regions under its control. They don't want other countries
> > poking
> > into their internal affairs, so they don't poke into other countries. The
> > US has
> > still not resolved the Black Hills dispute with the Sioux nation or dealt
> > with
> > the illegal ethnic cleansing of the Cherokee.
> >
> > It is the US that is the hypocrite: the US is always going around demanding
> > other countries change their governments or do this or do that, but
> > whenever
> > another country criticises the US, we hide behind national sovereignity.
> >
> > If you believe all men are created equal, you would want the same laws for
> > everyone, not one set of laws of your side, and different set for theirs.
> >
> One set of laws means when they ignore the laws so do the rest of us....
So how is Iran ignoring US national sovereignity?
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