XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: "twshermanREMOVE"@THI$southslope.net   
      
   On 7/25/2012 10:56 PM, Lil Abner wrote:   
   > You don't understand. You and many others live in a community setting   
   > where they don't have to travel far for anything except by choice.   
   > Most Americans must commute from a few miles to over a hundred to jobs,   
   > store, doctor and so on. Most have families and bikes and groceries and   
   > long distances and snow and storms and freezing temps and 100 degree   
   > heat do not mix well especially with older folks etc.   
      
   Hell, I have ridden a motorcycle in both extreme heat (as recently as   
   last weekend) and in the snow for trips several hundred miles in length.   
     Real men (and women) do not need a huge steel cage of death (to   
   others) to go places.   
      
   > The reason America has advanced thus far was practicality of means of   
   > transport.   
   > A bike or civic or smart car is not practical or desireable for most   
   > Citizens.   
      
   Bull.  I have moved several times with no larger vehicle than a Honda   
   Civic.  With a hitch, an inexpensive utility trailer can be used for the   
   few times more hauling capacity is needed than a small car provides,   
   without the waste of a 3 tons SUV being used to haul 0.1 ton of stuff.   
      
   As for desire, freedom of action for one person ends when it   
   gratuitously harms another person.   
      
   > A regression to small impractical vehicles and bikes and   
   > horses etc would/will colapse the Country and economy.   
      
   Then why has not Europe collapsed?  Duh.   
      
   > The Brussels   
   > Globalists and greenies don't give a care. They want hair shirts, no   
   > airconditioning, bikes and crowded society equally sharing the miseries   
   > and deprivation that is owed by Americans or everyone. They think we are   
   > not righteous because we have/had a higher standard of living and freedoms.   
      
   Been drinking the talk radio/television shouting head Kool-Aid, I see.   
   Northern/Western Europe has a better *quality of life* for 99% of their   
   citizens than the US does.   
      
   > All the miseries they think we should share won't make Sub Sahara   
   > Bushmen middle class and put a cadillac in their huts.   
   > The regions and populations that never made advancement had no resources   
   > and will mostly never will. Cheap inefficient labor is all they have and   
   > they don't want that.   
   > The major headlines of these areas is aid from us and other Countries.   
   > Quit trying to make America a miserable place. There is plenty of third   
   > world  to choose from already. Take the Muslim terrorist organization   
   > and Mexico's population with you.   
      
   What Muslim terrorist organizations?  Al-CIAduh?   
      
   > Quite trying to bleed our pocetbooks, future and society and make us a   
   > crowded socialist hell hole.   
      
   No wonder the US has gone to hell, with such ignorance and lack of   
   critical thinking.   
      
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