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   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: dead@gone.com   
      
   On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:00:18 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:   
      
   > "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
   >  wrote in message   
   > news:067d7ba7-884a-430c-aad0-   
   c3d005e1baa4@h11g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...   
   >> It wasn't through the books, my GF was sick and you know what being   
   >> sick means in America. The medical industry itself makes you sick plus   
   >> your own sickness. But wait, someone said she could be seen by a doctor   
   >> (a real doctor) for 25 bucks! I thought it was a practical joke or   
   >> perhaps a cruel joke. We got to the place and it was a very nice! I   
   >> mean it was a trailer, but nice. The people were friendly, telling   
   >> jokes, and the doctor showed up. No long wait either. She was seen...   
   >> NEUMONIA! "C'mon, guys, where's the joke!?" I thought. Well, they are   
   >> subsidized by the government, and that means SOCIALISM.   
   >>   
   >> I always had my doubts about it --bloated bureaucracy and free   
   >> handouts-- but here it was, real socialism in the state of New York. I   
   >> played this joke on the nurse: "Listen, we can get sick in Miami, get a   
   >> plane here and keep the change!" She didn't laugh that much perhaps   
   >> that would be an abuse of the program. This is for the local people and   
   >> not for anybody else. I said, "Is this a program prevalent in NY?"   
   >> She said "no" but wouldn't elaborate that much. Best of all, my GF was   
   >> never asked if she was an indigent.   
   >>   
   >> Now I'm not afraid to be called a socialist. But notice, NOTHING FREE.   
   >> It makes sense: AFFORDABLE BUT NOT FREE. Not even Obamacare can beat   
   >> that. Simple and fair. That's my proposal at the next meeting of the   
   >> Revolutionary Committee in Exile.   
   >>   
   >> It is said the revolution is about solutions.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > You went to the county heath clinic. You paid $25, the officed billed   
   > the government $400 for the three minutes you were served. Let's give   
   > the benefit of doubt and say you were served for 12 minutes, that's   
   > $2,000 per hour in billing, 8 hours per day (or $16,000), 5 days per   
   > week. Nothing is free. Thank your neighbors for the taxes they pay to   
   > keep the clinic operating.   
   >   
   > It's simple math. I might have pulled the wrong number out of my ass,   
   > but you can be absolutely certain that the office billed government for   
   > whatever the shortfall is between the $25 you paid and the cost it takes   
   > to provide the sevice.   
      
   Of course, under private health care, the clinic would bill $600 for   
   three minutes because they need to cover their losses from uninsured   
   emergency care patients, and your insurance provider would cover that,   
   and since they are a business, fight some of the items covered, incurring   
   delays and expense for all sides, and then base their premiums on the   
   $600, the extra caused by penny-pound scrimping, and then tack on 40% for   
   profit and bonus packages for the CEO, etc., effectively doubling the   
   price of that clinic visit.   
      
   "It's simple math. I might have pulled the wrong number out of my ass..."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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