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   From: crwlrjeff@yahoo.com   
      
   "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"    
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   On Aug 12, 1:00 pm, "Jeff Strickland"  wrote:   
   > "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
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   > > It wasn't through the books, my GF was sick and you know what being   
   > > sick means in America. The medical industry itself makes you sick plus   
   > > your own sickness. But wait, someone said she could be seen by a   
   > > doctor (a real doctor) for 25 bucks! I thought it was a practical joke   
   > > or perhaps a cruel joke. We got to the place and it was a very nice! I   
   > > mean it was a trailer, but nice. The people were friendly, telling   
   > > jokes, and the doctor showed up. No long wait either. She was seen...   
   > > NEUMONIA! "C'mon, guys, where's the joke!?" I thought. Well, they are   
   > > subsidized by the government, and that means SOCIALISM.   
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   > > I always had my doubts about it --bloated bureaucracy and free   
   > > handouts-- but here it was, real socialism in the state of New York. I   
   > > played this joke on the nurse: "Listen, we can get sick in Miami, get   
   > > a plane here and keep the change!" She didn't laugh that much perhaps   
   > > that would be an abuse of the program. This is for the local people   
   > > and not for anybody else. I said, "Is this a program prevalent in NY?"   
   > > She said "no" but wouldn't elaborate that much. Best of all, my GF was   
   > > never asked if she was an indigent.   
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   > > Now I'm not afraid to be called a socialist. But notice, NOTHING FREE.   
   > > It makes sense: AFFORDABLE BUT NOT FREE. Not even Obamacare can beat   
   > > that. Simple and fair. That's my proposal at the next meeting of the   
   > > Revolutionary Committee in Exile.   
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   > > It is said the revolution is about solutions.   
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   > You went to the county heath clinic. You paid $25, the officed billed the   
   > government $400 for the three minutes you were served. Let's give the   
   > benefit of doubt and say you were served for 12 minutes, that's $2,000 per   
   > hour in billing, 8 hours per day (or $16,000), 5 days per week. Nothing is   
   > free. Thank your neighbors for the taxes they pay to keep the clinic   
   > operating.   
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   > It's simple math. I might have pulled the wrong number out of my ass, but   
   > you can be absolutely certain that the office billed government for   
   > whatever   
   > the shortfall is between the $25 you paid and the cost it takes to provide   
   > the sevice.   
      
   Have you considered the possibility that the medical staff is willing   
   to live with less? I hear Canadian doctors make a 1/3 less than the   
   more affluent American doctors, and that's part of the reason their   
   UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM is so much cheaper than the American   
   system.   
      
   I mean, if they can't afford a Mercedes, they can buy a GM. And if the   
   buy the Volt they are doing twice the good.   
      
   But that's only my humble opinion.   
      
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   There is no way in Hell that the doctor's office, including the doctor and   
   the support staff are doing anything for $25. It just isn't happening.   
      
   And, driving a Volt instead of a Mercedes is not "twice as good." Indeed, it   
   appears that the carbon footprint of the Volt is significantly larger than   
   almost any other vehicle of its size on the market.   
      
   So, just because you paid $25 for a doctor's visit does not mean that a   
   doctor's visit only costs $25. The visit might cost you $25, but your   
   neighbors all paid for your visit too, so the cost only looks small to you.   
      
   The difference in a Democrat and a Republican is that a Republican is a   
   former Democrat that figured out how the ends meet.   
      
   Canadian doctors make less because they cannot bill the government for your   
   girl friend's sniffles as much as American doctors can, but that does not   
   change the fact that an office visit costs more than $25, and government   
   makes up the shortfall. It's just that the Canadian cap the bills at a lower   
   level. I'm sure you have no clue that Canadians actually come to the US for   
   better care if they have the wherewithall to pay the bills.   
      
   You are the guy that says we could save billions if we just had more bikes   
   and women stopped shaving their legs, right?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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