XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: scharf.steven@geemail.com   
      
   On 8/12/2012 1:00 PM, 3142 Dead wrote:   
      
   >> Following the logic of the API, which claims that oil companies make   
   >> less than 7% profit, 20% is extremely generous.   
   >   
   > None of which stops right wingers from howling that it's a communist plot   
   > to foist single-payer on us all.  Billionaires have a gawd-given right to   
   > make serious bank off all those sick kids!   
      
   Single-payer has little chance of coming to the U.S.. Too bad, since   
   it's very good for both business and the health care recipients. The   
   U.S. had lost tens of thousands of jobs to countries with single-payer.   
   Toyota abandoned NUMMI and moved Corolla production to Canada partly   
   because the health care costs in the U.S. were so high that it was   
   cheaper to manufacture in Canada and ship vehicles back to the U.S..   
      
   What is difficult to understand is how gullible the right wing is.   
   They'll consistently vote against the best interests of the country,   
   themselves, and their families because they actually believe what the   
   banking industry, the oil industry, the health care industry, and the   
   Heritage Foundation tell them to believe. Is it just ignorance, or do   
   they really believe so many things that are not so? The lack of critical   
   thinking skills is shocking. Or maybe not, since the Republican party   
   has explicitly come out against the teaching of critical thinking skills   
   in schools.   
      
   Maybe the key to educating the right wing is to always try to explain   
   things with Ronald Reagan quotes.   
      
   For example, while Reagan opposed socialized medicine, he was very much   
   in favor of a plan like Obamacare. "I have always felt that medical care   
   should be available for those who cannot otherwise afford it. I have   
   been looking into a program whereby government might pay the premiums   
   for health insurance for those who cannot afford it and, at the same   
   time, make such premiums for others a tax credit or deduction,   
   preferably credit to encourage more use of private health insurance."   
      
   The problem with the individual mandate in Obamacare is that it should   
   have been structured the opposite way. Increase the income tax rate   
   slightly, then give a deduction for purchasing insurance, rather than   
   keeping tax rates the same and assessing a penalty for not purchasing   
   insurance. Of course the reason it's the way that it is is there was no   
   way Obama could have gotten it passed with a tax deduction for   
   purchasing insurance.   
      
   Of course Reagan also signed the EMTALA into law, mandating that   
   hospitals provide emergency care to those that could not pay, but not   
   providing any funding for the mandate. Today's right wingers would no   
   doubt oppose the EMTALA since it forces all of us to pay for poor   
   people’s medical care indirectly. It also imposes restrictions on   
   hospitals, and explicitly requires treatment for illegal aliens.   
      
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