XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com   
      
   On 2012-08-15, 3142 Dead  wrote:   
   > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:06:25 +0000, Brent wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2012-08-14, 3142 Dead  wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:26:47 +0000, Brent wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2012-08-14, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Wait, wait, Jesus was a socialist!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> False.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>  He shared everything with his   
   >>>>> "troop" and the whole world for that matter.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's lead by example or simply voulunteerism. JC as far as I know   
   >>>> never threatened violence to force other people to share their goods.   
   >>>> Socialism uses the threat of violence to make people share. The state   
   >>>> forces transfer from some people to some other people.   
   >>>   
   >>> Socialism doesn't not fit your ignorant crackpot definition.   
   >>   
   >> I'm all for people doing what they want in volunteer society. If a bunch   
   >> of people want a socialist paradise they are free to create it, they   
   >> just can't force others to participate. Yet, that's not what happens in   
   >> the real world.   
   >   
   > And yet here you are, still in this society, and doubtlessly availing   
   > yourself of socialist roads, schools, money, and police and military   
   > protection.   
      
   Why is that socialist types drive out competition, monopolize something,   
   tax people for it (costing them far more than the private free   
   market version would), use that monopoly to exert power and control and   
   then have the arrogance to make statements like the above?   
      
   "Government is good at one thing: It knows how to break your legs, hand   
   you a crutch, and say, "See, if it weren't for the government, you   
   wouldn't be able to walk." - Harry Browne   
      
      
   >> Feel free to show me a socialist system that doesn't use violence to   
   >> keep its members "sharing" the wealth.   
      
   Notice how this is not responded to. Because it is the monopoly on   
   violence that maintains the other monopolies and the power to force   
   people to pay for those "services".   
      
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