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   Brent to the Beach Cruiser Philosopher   
   Re: I became a Socialist last week   
   16 Aug 12 17:38:47   
   
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   From: tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com   
      
   On 2012-08-15, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher  wrote:   
   > On Aug 15, 1:06 pm, Brent  wrote:   
   >> On 2012-08-14, 3142 Dead  wrote:   
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   >> > On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:26:47 +0000, Brent wrote:   
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   >> >> On 2012-08-14, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher   
   >> >>  wrote:   
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   >> >>> Wait, wait, Jesus was a socialist!   
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   >> >> False.   
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   >> >>>  He shared everything with his   
   >> >>> "troop" and the whole world for that matter.   
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   >> >> That's lead by example or simply voulunteerism. JC as far as I know   
   >> >> never threatened violence to force other people to share their goods.   
   >> >> Socialism uses the threat of violence to make people share. The state   
   >> >> forces transfer from some people to some other people.   
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   >> > Socialism doesn't not fit your ignorant crackpot definition.   
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   >> I'm all for people doing what they want in volunteer society. If a bunch   
   >> of people want a socialist paradise they are free to create it, they   
   >> just can't force others to participate. Yet, that's not what happens in   
   >> the real world.   
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   >> Feel free to show me a socialist system that doesn't use violence to   
   >> keep its members "sharing" the wealth.   
      
   > The question is whether Afghanistan will turn a socialist or   
   > capitalist paradise:   
      
   Irrelevant. Violence is what rules there regardless.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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