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   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com   
      
   On Nov 7, 6:10 am, John B.  wrote:   
   > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:00:07 -0800 (PST), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach   
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   > Cruiser Philosopher"  wrote:   
   > >On Nov 6, 7:26 pm, John B.  wrote:   
   > >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:09:26 -0800 (PST), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach   
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   > >> Cruiser Philosopher"  wrote:   
   > >> >On Nov 5, 6:04 pm, ste...@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill) wrote:   
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   > >> >> >I've said here: I wouldn't ride a bike in NYC other than   
   > >> >> >for fun.   
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   > >> >> You're in luck -- biking to work or to run errands is fun.   
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   > >> >Right. Practicality and fun can be mixed when you have right the right   
   > >> >bike. I mean a cargo bike can simplify anything the way an SUV never   
   > >> >does.   
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   > >> >That's why I call them "SUB."   
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   > >> Its called decadence, isn't it? When one feel one must have a   
   > >> multitude of bicycles? One for riding, one for show, one for cargo and   
   > >> one assumes one for non-cargo.   
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   > >> How about one for riding down to the bus stop to catch the bus to   
   > >> school?   
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   > >> Cheers,   
   > >> John B.   
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   > >Yeah, one can indulge when you don't pay for the car loan, the   
   > >interests, insurance, gas and towing.   
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   > >But the whole world can benefit from my experiments with cargo bikes   
   > >and utility bikes. Lance Amstrong can never inspire the world like   
   > >that. Well, that was before he fell in disgrace. Trying to be elite is   
   > >an error in life. You must be humble and speak the truth.   
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   > What is with this car loan, interest, etc.? Or is this the "Instant   
   > Gratification" I read about that you folk have. I've always paid cash   
   > for my cars... Just save your money until you can pay for it.... save   
   > all that interest costs.   
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   > Cheers,   
   > John B.   
      
   If you took the loans out of buying new cars (particularly SUVs),   
   probably we would have as many cyclists as Holland. And the cars would   
   shrink to reasonable proportions.   
      
   What's reasonable? A Smart, a Ford Focus, even a minivan. Similar   
   sizes as in Europe.   
      
   Then the law of the jungle will be no more on our roads. People will   
   try to be smart and polite. Sounds Utopian?   
      
      
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