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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Dec 13, 9:51 pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:   
   > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:02:14 -0700, Yoorghis wrote:   
   > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:16:31 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty   
   > > wrote:   
   >   
   > >>Everybody was getting minimal medical care, which is better than most of   
   > >>the world.... We can't pay for 100% getting unlimited medical care, NO   
   > >>matter who you try to make pay.   
   >   
   > > Yes you can   
   >   
   > > Other civilized industrialed nations do   
   >   
   > Word is, they're going bankrupt. They don't go around killing little   
   > brown people so they can be "Free" like Americans do so they don't have   
   > half the excuse for going bankrupt that we do.   
   >   
   > > At present--we spend more on elective tit jobs, tummy tucks, hair   
   > > restoration, face lifts and needless crap that if applied to REAL HC   
   > > needs, would pay our debt down.   
   >   
   > I donno... Seen some of those tit jobs... worth the money from my   
   > perspective.   
   >   
   > > Just the reform of Medicare--we save $700 Billion.   
   >   
   > > Paying a HC company $2000 for what you could buy from a medical supply   
   > > store for $200---is a savings to taxpayers   
   >   
   > > Forceing HC providers to limit the profit margin and administration   
   > > costs of premiums is a tremendous savings.   
   >   
   > These hospitals are not making big profits, they're going bankrupt and   
   > shutting their doors. The reason is the back door socialism we've imposed   
   > on them with our laws, laws that require them to treat people who have   
   > no intention of paying for their medical care.   
   >   
   > And the reason they're charging people without insurance a lot more than   
   > those who do is because of the high rate of deadbeats. Yes, they charge   
   > those who DO pay a lot more than cost because of those who DON'T pay.   
      
   That's shameful. I see a solution where people without health   
   insurance walk up to the Emergency Room and when they are denied care,   
   they commit suicide right there.   
      
   How can they live with the shame to be broke? How can they be a burden   
   for society? How can they be so reckless to ride a bike and get hurt?   
      
   That's why I say healthcare and bicycling are so intrinsically   
   connected. They are an act of suicide. People with healthcare   
   insurance though tend to kill themselves slowly through obesity, junk   
   food, and pills. What's glorious about that?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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