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   His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey to RichAsianKid   
   Re: Are we like ants or roaches?   
   23 Jan 13 10:11:50   
   
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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Jan 22, 5:46 pm, RichAsianKid  wrote:   
      
   > Below averages are celebrated even more than averages especially in   
   > America - value-laden terms such as "underdog", "affirmative action",   
   > 1960s "revolution" tell tale. Few nations deliberately celebrate   
   > voluntarily discontinuity in history let alone elevate that to central   
   > pillar. And yes, not accidentally, it's accompanied by a relative   
   > recession of power.   
   >   
   > The notion of one-man-one-vote "Democracy" regardless of merit is merely   
   > one other tenet of that celebration of weakness. America never was; it   
   > rebelled against Britain and Europe in its deepest veins. Political   
   > communism in practice, anti-nature in essence, many 21st century   
   > countries had now in their bag hard-learned lessons from egalitarianism   
   > experimentation. For those reasons not just East Asians but East   
   > Europeans are less easily bamboozled by sparkling trinkets and dangling   
   > carrots. America's not.   
   >   
   > So to answer your question: no. American ideology will trump or at least   
   > will continue to trump practical outcome considerations - in foreseeable   
   > future.   
      
   I love this definition:   
      
   "FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS WHEN THEY LET YOU TALK, DEMOCRACY IS WHEN THEY   
   LISTEN"   
      
   So I have freedom of speech but not democracy. And you may have the   
   reverse as well. Ideally you would have both but few societies have   
   reached that stage. Perhaps Germany and Scandinavia have.   
      
   I'm simply a roach crawling around on my bike.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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