c37b0050   
   3f434f52   
   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Feb 6, 2:40 pm, Andre Jute  wrote:   
   > On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:43:30 PM UTC, Tom $herman wrote:   
   > > On 2/4/2013 11:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:   
   >   
   > > > On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:29:43 -0600, "Tom $herman"   
   >   
   > > >   wrote:   
   >   
   > > >> >On 2/4/2013 3:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:   
   >   
   > > >>> >>On 2/4/2013 1:31 PM, Andre Jute wrote:   
   >   
   > > >>>> >>>It seems we're all turning into Americans. Should I worry about it?   
   >   
   > > >>>> >>>Andre Jute   
   >   
   > > >>> >>Only to the extent that we are shamefacedly turning commie here. 51%   
   is   
   >   
   > > >>> >>a tyranny.   
   >   
   > > >> >Since communism was invented by and promoted by Jews, does not   
   criticism   
   >   
   > > >> >of it make one an antisemite?   
   >   
   > > > Well, it wasn't exactly invented by Marx and Engles.  They just took   
   >   
   > > > the social ideas that were around since at least the French   
   >   
   > > > Revolution's "Enrages of the Paris Commune" and added a militarist   
   >   
   > > > flavor (social struggle) to the formula.  Like planned economies, such   
   >   
   > > > utopian ideas can look good in theory, but fail in practice.   
   >   
   > > So still ideas formulated by Jews.   
   >   
   > You're an embarrassment, Liddell Tommi, once more exposing the gaping holes   
   in your education. Communism wasn't invented by Marx and Engels, nor was   
   Engels a Jew.  PIERRE JOSEPH PROUDHON (1809—1865), not a Jew, who coined the   
   ultraleft slogan “La    
   propriété, c'est le vol” — property is theft, in the modern abbreviated   
   version — claimed to the end of his life that those two Germans merely stole   
   his ideas (he was big on co-ops, which are communism on a local scale), and   
   some Proudhon's ideas look    
   suspiciously like social formulations by CLAUDE HENRI SAINT-SIMON (1760—1825),   
   a French aristocrat, not a Jew.   
   >   
   > You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?   
   >   
   > Andre Jute   
      
   Only real communism has been achieved by the kibbutz. Then they   
   decided to pull the plug so others won't get the idea. It's rather   
   communal instead of socialist. Socialism can be achieved by having   
   fair laws such as Germany. America is just Darwinist with touches of   
   socialism. Medicare is socialist.   
      
   The ones that receive Medicare usually vote for more socialism. They   
   are the gerontocracy.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)