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   XPost: alt.autos.toyota, rec.autos.driving, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: alt.fan.michael-moore   
   From: thetibetanmonkey@gmail.com   
      
   On Feb 28, 7:57 am, tomorrow wrote:   
   > On Feb 26, 2:22 pm, "His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble   
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   > Philosopher" wrote:   
   > > On Feb 26, 2:16 pm, tomorrow wrote:   
   > > > On Feb 26, 1:30 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"   
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   > > > wrote:   
   > > > > We can set a limit on weight and bumper height. Of course, you may   
   > > > > still buy a bigger one and use it strictly off road --or keep in the   
   > > > > garage.   
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   > > > > Tell you what, we can set the curb weight as follows:   
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   > > > > CURB WEIGHT 2002 JEEP LIBERTY... 3648 lbs. And that shall be the law   
   > > > > of the land.   
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   > > > > Compare that to the curb weight of a Hummer: 6614 lbs. If you need   
   > > > > something bigger than a Jeep Liberty go to Russia.   
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   > > > Your "definition" would outlaw my 1999 GMC Sierra 1500 2wd standard   
   > > > cab longbed pickup truck which has been operated legally and without   
   > > > accident for 14 years and over 140,000 miles, hauling motorcycles and   
   > > > towing trailers and moving children to their new apartments and   
   > > > bringing home beds and taking bicycles to the beach and to the   
   > > > mountains.   
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   > > > Please explain how that fits in with your concept of global harmony   
   > > > and peaceful coexistence, and tell me what vehicle you are going to   
   > > > buy for me to replace my beloved and useful hauling device.   
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   > > > You should do this before my 800+ pound Street Glide accidently bunts   
   > > > you and your bicycle off the bridge and into the icy drink below.   
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   > > Hey, no need to unleash that gorilla...   
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   > > You may keep the truck   
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   > So, it's not the truck, or the size, or the weight, or the handling of   
   > the vehicle that concerns you. So, your railing mightily against   
   > "SUVs" is just a smokescreen. Got it.   
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   > > provided you acquire a proper commercial   
   > > license to drive it.   
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   > My truck does not require a commercial license to drive it.   
   > Considering that I have been licensed to drive for 40 years and have   
   > never had an accident while driving a pick-up truck, I fail to see any   
   > merit in your demand.   
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   > > Think of all the idiots --soccer moms if you   
   > > will-- that terrorize our roads.   
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   > I don't just think about them - "soccer mom" or not - I deal with them   
   > on a daily basis. It doesn;t make a bit of difference whether they   
   > are driving an SUV or not. If they drive like an idiot in my   
   > vicinity, they are a problem that I have to deal with.   
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   > > They will have to observe LANE DISCIPLINE and other nice things that   
   > > are considered good road manners.   
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   > But all those things are already addressed by current law, and the   
   > infractions against those laws (and against good driving manners) are   
   > by no means limited to those who drive SUVs. Or even to those who   
   > drive motorized vehicles.   
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   > > No phone, of course.   
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   > Laws addressing phone use in cars are already on the books, and the   
   > infractions against those laws are by no means limited to those who   
   > drive SUVs. Or even to those who drive motorized vehicles.   
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   > Clearly, what you would like to see is good drivers on the roads,   
   > driving competently and politely. So would I. The difference   
   > between us is that I know that the lack of such has NOTHING to do with   
   > the vehicles on the road and EVERYTHING to do with the PEOPLE on the   
   > road.   
      
   So you plan on driving those stupid vehicles until the end of times?   
   How about when they get into accident? You know, accidents do happen.   
   Are you aware that you are unleashing an arms race where everyone must   
   be big to survive an accident?   
      
   Sorry, philosophers must question everything. Going with the flow is   
   not an option. We do need fewer drivers, better drivers, smaller cars.   
   But that's only my humble opinion. People would be terrorized to drive   
   a friendly Neighborhood Electric Vehicle around here, let alone a   
   beach cruiser.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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