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   Steve Hayes to hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
   Re: Henry Kissinger tells Ukraine it sho   
   25 May 22 08:30:25   
   
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   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Wed, 25 May 2022 04:56:17 +0200, Steve Hayes   
    wrote:   
      
   >Henry Kissinger tells Ukraine it should give Russia territory to try   
   >to find a peace deal - as Zelensky insists Putin has 'no interest in   
   >talking'   
   >   
   >Former US secretary of state told conference that Ukraine should   
   >accept terms   
      
   Henry Kissinger, Noam Chomsky Find Rare Common Ground Over Ukraine War   
   Andrew Stanton  10 hrs ago   
      
   Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political enemies, have   
   found rare common ground over the Russia-Ukraine war.   
      
   Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political enemies, have   
   found common ground amid the Russia-Ukraine war. Above, a split photo   
   of Kissinger (left) and Chomsky (right).© Adam Berry/Getty Images and   
   Heuler Andrey/AFP Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political   
   enemies, have found common ground amid the Russia-Ukraine war. Above,   
   a split photo of Kissinger (left) and Chomsky (right).   
   The two come from opposing ends of the political spectrum—Kissinger   
   serving as secretary of state under Republican presidents and Chomsky   
   one of the leading left-wing intellectuals in the United States—and   
   have frequently clashed.   
      
      
   But when it comes to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, both recently   
   advocated for Ukraine to consider a settlement that could see it   
   dropping claim to some land to achieve a quicker peace deal.   
      
   While speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on   
   Monday, Kissinger, who was secretary of state for presidents Richard   
   Nixon and Gerald Ford in the 1970s, encouraged Ukraine to accept a   
   peace deal with Russia to end the war.   
      
   He said negotiations should begin in the next two months before the   
   conflict "creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily   
   overcome."   
      
   He advised European leaders to consider their long-term relationship   
   with Russia and that they should not risk further strengthening the   
   bond between the Kremlin and China—one of its strongest allies amid   
   the invasion—according to the Telegraph.   
      
   "Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo   
   ante," Kissinger said. "Pursuing the war beyond that point would not   
   be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself."   
      
   In 2014, Russia annexed the region of Crimea, while separatists   
   declared the regions of Donetsk Oblast and Luhansk to be independent.   
   A return to the "status quo ante" would leave these regions as they   
   were before the invasion.   
      
   He added that he hopes "the Ukrainians will match the heroism they   
   have shown with wisdom."   
      
   In an interview with British journalist Owen Jones this month,   
   Chomsky, a left-wing political philosopher and Massachusetts Institute   
   of Technology professor known for his anti-war views, made critical   
   remarks about the Western response to the conflict, calling out what   
   he views as a "Western propaganda system" pushing the idea Ukrainians   
   want more weapons.   
      
   He said that while he isn't opposed to sending arms to Ukraine, so   
   long as it's done under genuine concern for Ukrainians, it must be   
   done in "a way which will not escalate the Russian attack and can   
   lead, of course, to the destruction of Ukraine."   
      
   Chomsky described the possibility of a "pretty sensible settlement" in   
   which Ukraine would commit itself to neutralization, not joining the   
   North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), put off the issue of Crimea   
   and "move toward some kind of accommodation on Donbas."   
      
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   He went on to criticize the U.S. and U.K. for not backing such a   
   proposal. However, on Monday, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said   
   that Ukraine—not the United States or NATO—has the authority to   
   dictate the end of the war.   
      
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