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   From: paul.aubrin@invalid.org   
      
   Le 17/12/2025 à 19:34, Mitchell Holman a écrit :   
   >    Climate change deniers, lunar landing deniers,   
   > evolution deniers, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers,   
   > they all use the same rhetoric and thus all sound   
   > alike.   
      
   Even data speak the same language : temperature variations precede   
   carbon dioxide variations in instrumental records.   
      
   https://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/crutem4vgl/derivative/mean:12/   
   ean:14/from:1958/normalise/plot/esrl-co2/derivative/mean:12/mean   
   14/scale:20/detrend:3/from:1958/normalise   
      
   And it precedes in geological (proxy) records by ~800 years too !   
   What other effect do you know which comes before its supposed cause ?   
   Weird isn't it ?   
      
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