XPost: alt.politics.democrats, talk.politics.misc   
   From: katt@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 07 Mar 2026 02:30:55 +0000,Mitchell Holman says   
      
   > > And I'll wager that an American hating, leftist democrat, communist   
   > > like you is celebrating.   
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   > Better get your bone spurs diagnosis   
   > in before Trump fires up the draft.   
      
   Better get your tissues ready, butt-bumping butthurt little faggot.   
      
   A) there will be no draft   
      
   B) This will not last   
      
   C) your butthurt replies only make you look stupid   
      
   D) Trump is already a hero amongst Iranians and that just chaps your already   
   butt-fucked chapped ass, doannit?   
      
   Where was your butthurt crying when Obama was killing women and children and   
   bombing weddings?   
      
   Disclaimer: Obama could have pulled out of Afghanistan ANY TIME he wanted,   
   with the stroke of a pen, so do NOT blame   
   but Buuuuush! Whah whah whah!   
      
      
   The War in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom / Freedom's Sentinel)   
      
   While this war began in 2001, the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OVERSAW A SIGNIFICANT   
   "SURGE" in 2010, which led to the   
   deadliest years of the conflict for U.S. forces.   
      
   U.S. Financial Cost (2009-2017): Approximately $533.4 billion. (This accounts   
   for roughly 63% of the total Department   
   of Defense spending for the entire 20-year war).   
      
   U.S. Military Fatalities (2009-2016): 1,752 service members killed. (For   
   comparison, 626 were killed under the previous   
   administration).   
      
   Obama: 1,752 vs. Bush: 626   
      
   Total Deaths (All sides, 2009-2017):   
      
   Afghan Civilians: Estimated 23,000 - 28,000 (Direct war-related deaths during   
   these years).   
      
   Afghan Military/Police: Estimated 30,000+.   
      
   Opposition/Militants: Tens of thousands (exact figures are highly disputed).   
      
   =====   
      
   The three distinct phases that occurred between 2009 and 2017.   
      
   The Iraq War (Operations Iraqi Freedom, New Dawn, and Inherent Resolve)   
      
   The Obama administration transitioned from the original 2003 invasion to a   
   complete withdrawal, followed by a re-entry   
   in 2014 to combat the rise of ISIS.   
      
   Phase - Years - U.S. Cost (Est.) - U.S. Military Deaths - Iraqi Deaths   
   (Militant and Civilian)   
      
   Operation Iraqi Freedom - 2009-2010   
   Cost: ~$160 Billion   
   U.S. Deaths: ~250   
   Opponent Death: ~20,000 - 30,000   
      
   Operation New Dawn - 2010-2011   
   Cost: ~$45 Billion   
   U.S. Deaths: 74   
   Opposition Deaths: ~10,000 - 15,000   
      
   Operation Inherent Resolve - 2014-2017   
   Cost: ~$11.7 Billion   
   U.S. Deaths: ~30   
   Opposition Deaths: ~25,000+ (Militant) / 2,100+ (Civilian)   
      
   Pakistan   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified "Black Budget")   
   U.S. Military Dead: 0   
   Opponent Deaths: ~2,089 - 3,406 (Includes ~257 - 634 Civilians)   
      
   Yemen   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified "Black Budget")   
   Opponent Deaths: ~777 - 1,075 (Includes ~124 - 161 Civilians)   
      
   Somalia   
   Year: 2011-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified "Black Budget")   
   Opponent Deaths: ~242 - 454 (Includes ~3 - 12 Civilians)   
      
   Operation Odyssey Dawn:   
   Year: 2011   
   Cost: ~$1.1 Billion   
   Opponent Deaths: ~1,100 - 2,500 (Gaddafi forces and Civilians)   
      
   Operation Observant Compass:   
   Year: 2011-2017   
   Cost: ~$780 Million   
   Opponent Deaths: Minimal (Focus was on defections and capture; LRA reduced   
   from hundreds to <100)   
      
   Operation Ocean Shield (Gulf of Aden)   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Estimated in the hundreds of millions annually for naval   
   deployments)   
   Opponent Deaths: ~30 - 50 (Pirates killed/captured)   
      
   =====   
      
   Here is the data for the major conflicts that occurred or continued between   
   2009 and 2017.   
      
   Operation Enduring Freedom / Freedom's Sentinel (Afghanistan)   
   Year: 2009-2017   
   Cost: ~$533.4 Billion   
   Military Dead: 1,752   
   Opponent Deaths: ~30,000+   
      
   Operation Iraqi Freedom / New Dawn (Iraq)   
   Year: 2009-2011   
   Cost: ~$205 Billion   
   Military Dead: ~324   
   Opponent Deaths: ~30,000 - 45,000   
      
   Operation Inherent Resolve (Iraq and Syria)   
   Year: 2014-2017   
   Cost: ~$11.7 Billion   
   Military Dead: ~30   
   Opponent Deaths: ~25,000+ (Militant) / ~2,100+ (Civilian)   
      
   Operation Odyssey Dawn (Libya)   
   Year: 2011   
   Cost: ~$1.1 Billion   
   Opponent Deaths: ~1,100 - 2,500   
      
   Counter-Terrorism Drone Strikes (Pakistan)   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified/Black Budget)   
   Opponent Deaths: ~2,089 - 3,406 (Includes ~257 - 634 Civilians)   
      
   Counter-Terrorism Drone Strikes (Yemen)   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified/Black Budget)   
   Opponent Deaths: ~777 - 1,075 (Includes ~124 - 161 Civilians)   
      
   Counter-Terrorism Drone/Air Strikes (Somalia)   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Classified/Black Budget)   
   Opponent Deaths: ~242 - 454 (Includes ~3 - 12 Civilians)   
      
   Operation Ocean Shield (Gulf of Aden/Anti-Piracy)   
   Year: 2009-2016   
   Cost: Unknown (Hundreds of millions annually)   
   Opponent Deaths: ~30 - 50   
      
   =====   
      
   The Transition (2009-2011): After inheriting roughly 140,000 troops, Obama   
   officially ended "combat operations" in   
   August 2010 (Operation New Dawn) and completed the full withdrawal of U.S.   
   forces in December 2011. During this window,   
   the Iraq Body Count project recorded over 12,000 civilian deaths from ongoing   
   sectarian violence and insurgent attacks.   
      
   The Return (2014-2017): In August 2014, the U.S. began airstrikes in Iraq and   
   later Syria to stop ISIS. While the   
   "boots on the ground" were limited to several thousand advisors and special   
   forces, the air campaign was massive, with   
   over 10,000 strikes conducted by the end of 2016.   
      
   Total Human Toll (2009-2017): While U.S. casualties remained significantly   
   lower than in the early 2000s, Iraqi   
   civilian deaths remained high due to the rise of ISIS and the subsequent urban   
   warfare required to retake cities like   
   Mosul.   
      
   =============================================================================   
      
   "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition   
      
   All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome, " or TDS.   
      
   "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has   
   been driven effectively insane due to   
   their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all   
   logic and reason."   
      
   Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the   
   Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS   
   down into three distinct phases or stages:   
      
   "In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The   
   president-elect's every tweet provokes a   
   firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."   
      
   "The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's   
   vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language   
   consisting solely of hyperbole."   
      
   "As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from   
   reality."   
      
   The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk   
   opposition from liberals to anything and   
   everything Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's   
   ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he   
      
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