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   Phoenix to Chris Kern   
   Re: 200 Days of Sailor Moon - Episode 16   
   08 Nov 06 17:31:15   
   
   From: phoenix@mediaone.net   
      
   Chris Kern wrote:   
      
   >Episode 164 - The Golden Crystal appears!  Nehelenia's magic   
   >   
   >I was never very clear before on who Zirconia is; there's some   
   >indication in this episode that she's sort of a copy or double of   
   >Nehelenia.  When Nehelenia puts her hand through the mirror,   
   >Zirconia's hand starts to disappear, then when she completely steps   
   >through, Zirconia is gone.  I think there's more about this in the   
   >upcoming episodes.   
      
   I do think that Zirconia is an aspect of Nehelenia. You see another   
   small hint of it when Helios stares at Nehelenia and she starts to   
   wither into what could be a semblance of Zirconia. I think Nehelenia   
   keeps herself young by magic and Zirconia is what she really looks   
   like. That's why she hated looking at Zirconia in the mirror because   
   she is looking at her own true form. Since the dub made Zirconia a   
   man, it doesn't make much sense in that regard. Once again, the perils   
   of translating episodes without knowing the whole story.   
      
   The dub for this episode was so horrible that I really lack words to   
   describe it. The script was almost entirely re-written rather then   
   simply translated.   
      
   In the flashback scene where the AQ were running through the woods,   
   the dub made it seem like the AQ already knew Nehelenia and all about   
   dream mirrors. If you were watching the dub only, you would almost   
   certainly be completely confused about what was happening here. I   
   think the script writer didn't realize this was a flashback and tried   
   to incorporate it into the current timeline with a new script even if   
   it made no sense in that context.   
      
   For this entire season, Pegasus had never called Chibiusa by name. In   
   that climatic scene where Helios and Chibiusa clasp each other and   
   then are pulled apart, Helios finally calls to her. Chibiusa is moved   
   by that and tells him that's the first time he's ever said her name.   
   In the dub, Pegasus had been calling Rini by name the whole season. So   
   they had him call her "Minimoon" instead and she says that's the first   
   time he's said her name... outside her dreams. If it's given that his   
   Pegasus presence has been a dream illusion until just now, it's just   
   not that big a deal that he called her by name within a few minutes of   
   his transformation.   
      
   And these were only two of many, many drivel-ridden changes made to   
   this entire episode. You can go to SMU if you want a detailed   
   inventory.   
      
   --   
   Phoenix   
   www.phoenixanime.com   
      
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