From: db_cooper_do_not_use_this_part@gawab.com   
      
   On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 10:53:01 GMT, "thesatguy"    
   wrote:   
      
   >Until recently I didn't have a DVD player or recorder and never had any need   
   >for one.   
   >   
   >Somebody started uploading some wonderful TL movies I didn't have to the   
   >binaries group and DVD players are now down to $20. at Walmart so I decided   
   >it was time to breakdown and find myself a good DVD writer and some good DVD   
   >writing software.   
   >   
   >I bought an IOMEGA SuperDVD Writer for around $200. which was a big mistake   
   >because long long ago they stiffed everyone with their famous 'click of   
   >death' Ditto backup drives and I swore I would never buy anything else from   
   >them.   
   >   
   >Anyway it came with an OEM version of NERO software which cannot author a   
   >DVD and IOMEGA supplies you with its Hotburn Professional that can't do   
   >video period because of some stupid agreement they made with somebody.  Of   
   >course Ahead will be happy to sell you a better version of NERO that can   
   >author a DVD for only $150.  Screw them!   
   >   
   >I downloaded Ulead DVD stuff and it just crawls along so slow and clunky   
   >that its hard to determine if it does work.  It cannot record from my   
   >Conexant card although it says it can and on and on it doesn't work worth   
   >squat.   
   >   
   >I downloaded every darn DVD writing deal I could find and none worked worth   
   >a flip.   
   >   
   >On Christmas Eve I bought a $59. special Toshiba/Samsung DVD writer.   
   >   
   >It came with some stuff called InterVideo DVDwriter/reader/etc.  It works   
   >wonderfully - a couple of clicks and it writes a DVD correctly every time.   
   >It works great with my Conexant card so I can record live stuff, its not   
   >clunky and it does everything it needs to do.   
   >   
   >If you need something simple and easy to create DVD's you should give it a   
   >try cause its real easy and it really does work.  What a pleasure it is to   
   >use.   
   >   
   >And now I have nearly 20 TL DVD's that I can share thanks to the binaries   
   >group - can't share my beta tapes.   
      
   Someone else had that problem with Beta. They either found a Beta player at a   
   garauge/yard sale or found one on ebay. I don't recall the details. I would   
   also   
   suggest checking with TV/Radio repair shops. They may rent you one or even sell   
   you one. There is a local guy here that collects this old stuff and has a   
   repair   
   shop. He even has old Laser disc players that work. I don't know if any Traci   
   stuff was ever done on laser, but some porn was as someone had asked about   
   getting a laser in one of the groups.   
      
   DB   
      
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