XPost: alt.usage.english, rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: mike_lyle_uk@yahoo.co.uk   
      
   On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:43:25 -0400, James Silverton   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 8/29/2011 3:35 PM, Mike Lyle wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:55:29 +0100, Adam Funk   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2011-08-29, Peter Moylan wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Leslie Danks wrote:   
   >>>>> Adam Funk wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2011-08-28, Mike Lyle wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm half inclined to think that may catch on eventually. The folks on   
   >>>>>>> the BBC already say "cannons" as the plural of "cannon". A.U.E. has   
   >>>>>>> often noted that many little lumps and bumps of our language are being   
   >>>>>>> smoothed out: "slayed" instead of "slew", a chciken is most often   
   >>>>>>> "deboned" instead of "boned" -- that kind of thing.   
   >>>>>> Well, it is a bit of faff to remember which of those plain verbs refer   
   >>>>>> to removal (boning chickens, stoning olives). We need a good Germanic   
   >>>>>> prefix equivalent to German "ent-" to disambiguate these things.   
   >>>>>> ;-)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There us "entrail" for trains.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> I read this immediately after your posting about tube stew. I'm glad I'd   
   >>>> already finished my evening meal.   
   >>>   
   >>> For the sake of AUE you could at least have said "supper", "dinner",   
   >>> "tea", or whatever.   
   >>   
   >> You suggesting he lacks pluck?   
   >>   
   >Not that I'm an admirer of Alfred Lord T, but I really actually recalled   
   >"cannons to the right of them" and had to look up the poem to find it   
   >was "cannon".   
      
   As it happens, I think it was that one that fixed the conventional   
   plural in my young mind: I particularly remember Miss Taylor reading   
   it out with relish, and her meaningful rallentando and knowing look on   
   "cannon BEHIND them". I suppose a class today would react by shouting   
   "Oh, no it isn't!"   
      
   One shouldn't misunderestimate Alf, but somehow I never get round to   
   reading him properly.   
      
   --   
   Mike.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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