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   Stan Brown to Geza Giedke   
   Re: Elrond remaining in Rivendell   
   25 Sep 11 13:53:09   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm   
      
   On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:48:23 +0200, Geza Giedke wrote:   
   > derek schrieb am 17.09.2011 03:19:   
   > > [quoted text muted]   
   > > find a new "host", when it slipped off his finger for Bilbo to find.   
   > > It may not have been able to "choose its own ilk" there, but it knew   
   > > that Bilbo was the only creature around who might get it closer to   
   > > Sauron.   
   >   
   > i very much doubt this: any Orc would have been better in this respect   
   > (getting the Ring to Sauron). Recall that according to Gandalf "another   
   > Power was at work there".   
      
   Here's the quote, from "The Shadow of the Past" (Book I Ch 2):   
      
   "'What, just in time to meet Bilbo?' said Frodo. 'Wouldn't an Orc   
   have suited it better?'   
      
   "'It is no laughing matter,' said Gandalf. 'Not for you. It was the   
   strangest event in the whole history of the Ring so far: Bilbo's   
   arrival just at that time, and putting his hand on it, blindly, in   
   the dark.   
      
   "'There was more than one power at work, Frodo. The Ring was trying   
   to get back to its master. ...   
      
   "'Behind that there was something else at work, beyond any design of   
   the Ring-maker. I can put it no plainer than by saying that Bilbo was   
   meant to find the Ring, and not by its maker. In which case you also   
   were meant to have it. And that maybe an encouraging thought.'"   
      
      
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