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   From: joedoe3@gmail.com   
      
   Jim Heckman schrieb am 29.09.2011 05:53:   
   > Some time ago, it came up in another newsgroup that, at least at   
   > the time of the War of the Ring, the Hobbits of the Shire followed   
   > the Elvish practice of referring to the Sun as "she" and the Moon   
   > as "he".   
   > [...]   
   > The most likely explanation that occurs to me is that the Eldar who   
   > remained in Middle-earth after the War of Wrath got this   
   > information from the Númenóreans, who in turn got it from the Elves   
   > of Aman that still visited Númenor in the first part of the Second   
   > Age.  Do we have any evidence for or against this?  Anybody have any   
   > other ideas?  As far as I can recall, no Elf except Glorfindel ever   
   > came East to Middle-earth after the end of the First Age.  (Which   
   > itself has always struck me as a little strange.  Wouldn't at least   
   > a few of them have wanted to see their kin again, if only for a   
   > short [by Elvish standards] visit?)   
      
   how about the Elves (mostly Vanyar) that were in the host of Eonwe? I   
   would think that a lot of communication between the victorious host and   
   the remnant of the Eldar took place and that all kinds of questions   
   about Aman, relatives left behind, the policies of Manwe etc were asked   
   and answered in the weeks or months between the overthrow of Morgoth and   
   the departure of the host.   
      
   regards   
    Geza   
      
      
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