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   From: mmikeda@erols.com   
      
   Michael Cole  wrote in   
   news:j7fr0i$62d$1@dont-email.me:   
      
   > Michael Ikeda explained on 14/10/2011 :   
   >> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >> news:j77rgv$ejk$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>   
   >>> Michael Ikeda formulated on Friday :   
   >>>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>>> news:j757cu$haq$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Dworkin wrote :   
   >>>>>> On 12 okt, 00:55, Michael Cole    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Michael Ikeda presented the following explanation :   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>> news:j6tb1o$tco$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>> on 9/10/2011, Tahi supposed :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Again, a passage, phrase or sentence from the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> books...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. In LoTR?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No. 2. The Hobbit? No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. In Unfinished Tales?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Is the passage something that is spoken by a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> character?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Does it describe something?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Is the description connected to Beleriand?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Is the description connected to Numenor?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Is the description connected to the Third Age?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 9 About the Palantiri?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. A description of a living creature?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> 11. About something geographic, like a river, a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> valley, a cave, a mountain?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>> 12.Does it describe what is being seen by a person (or   
   >>>>>>>>>> people)?   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>> 13.   Seen by one person (as opposed to a group)?   
   >>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>> 14. Elendil's tomb?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>> 15.  A description of an object created by one or more beings   
   >>>> belonging to one or more of the Free Peoples (that is, elves,   
   >>>> humans, hobbits, dwarves, or ents).   
   >>>   
   >>> Oooh.  This is going to depend on the definition of "an   
   >>> object", but I am going to say, Yes.   
   >>>   
   >> 16.  Is at least one of the persons seeing what is being   
   >> described from either the Rohirrim or the people that would   
   >> become the Rohirrim?   
   > No.   
      
   17.  Is at least one of the persons a Gondorian?   
      
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