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   on 29/10/2011, Michael Ikeda supposed :   
   > Michael Cole  wrote in   
   > news:j829ie$o7h$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> Michael Ikeda submitted this idea :   
   >>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>> news:j7fr0i$62d$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Michael Ikeda explained on 14/10/2011 :   
   >>>>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:j77rgv$ejk$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Michael Ikeda formulated on Friday :   
   >>>>>>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>>>>>> news:j757cu$haq$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Dworkin wrote :   
   >>>>>>>>> On 12 okt, 00:55, Michael Cole    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Michael Ikeda presented the following explanation :   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Cole  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:j6tb1o$tco$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> on 9/10/2011, Tahi supposed :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, a passage, phrase or sentence from the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. In LoTR?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. 2. The Hobbit? No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. In Unfinished Tales?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Is the passage something that is spoken by a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> character?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Does it describe something?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Is the description connected to Beleriand?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Is the description connected to Numenor?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Is the description connected to the Third Age?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 About the Palantiri?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. A description of a living creature?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. About something geographic, like a river, a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valley, a cave, a mountain?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.Does it describe what is being seen by a person   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> (or people)?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 13.   Seen by one person (as opposed to a group)?   
   >>>>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>>>> 14. Elendil's tomb?   
   >>>>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>> 15.  A description of an object created by one or more   
   >>>>>>> beings belonging to one or more of the Free Peoples (that   
   >>>>>>> is, elves, humans, hobbits, dwarves, or ents).   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Oooh.  This is going to depend on the definition of "an   
   >>>>>> object", but I am going to say, Yes.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> 16.  Is at least one of the persons seeing what is being   
   >>>>> described from either the Rohirrim or the people that would   
   >>>>> become the Rohirrim?   
   >>>> No.   
   >>>   
   >>> 17.  Is at least one of the persons a Gondorian?   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >>   
   >> It is possible that the wrong intention may have been given by   
   >> an answer.  I will say that I have given the most strict   
   >> interpretation of the question, based on the passage in question   
   >> rather than any interpolation of the situation outside the   
   >> passage.   
   >>   
   >> To give a hint, one of your questions was very very warm...   
   >>   
   >   
   > 18.  Is at least one of the persons a Northman?   
      
   Given that even I am getting confused, I will expand on the answer.   
      
   There is at least one or more persons present from either the Rohirrim   
   or the people that would become the Rohirrim, however the person or   
   persons seeing what is being described from either the Rohirrim or the   
   people that would become the Rohirrim, nor Gondorian, nor Northmen?   
   There are no Gondorians or Northmen present.   
      
   --   
   Michael Cole   
      
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