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   Message 68,636 of 70,346   
   Steve Hayes to Steve Morrison   
   Re: The Two Gelmirs   
   21 Nov 11 13:10:27   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien, alt.books.inklings   
   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:16:15 -0500, Steve Morrison  wrote:   
      
   >How could there have been two Gelmirs? Tolkien makes it very clear   
   >that Elvish names are never, ever repeated; he found it necessary to   
   >write an entire essay about Glorfindel explaining how Glorfindel of   
   >Gondolin could be the same person as Glorfindel of Rivendell. And   
   >yet two distinct elves in the /Silm/ had the name Gelmir. The first   
   >was the brother of Gwindor of Nargothrond, who was captured in the   
   >Bragollach and murdered at the beginning of the Nirnaeth. The second   
   >was the companion of Arminas, who met Tuor and showed him the Gate   
   >of the Noldor (and later met Túrin in Nargothrond). The Index to the   
   >/Silm/ even has two entries under "Gelmir". Any thoughts on how to   
   >resolve the discrepancy?   
      
   Where does Tolkien say that Elvish names are never repeated?   
      
   (sorry if this appears duplicated, but I'm writing it in alt.books.inklings,   
   and the one I replied to had follow-ups set excluding it).   
      
      
      
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