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   Tahi brought next idea :   
   > "Michael Cole"  wrote in message   
   > news:jbjj9s$ci4$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> It happens that Tahi formulated :   
   >>>>> Again, a passage, phrase or sentence from the   
   >>>>> books...   
   >>>>> 1. In LoTR?   
   >>>>> No. 2. The Hobbit? No.   
   >>>>> 3. In Unfinished Tales?   
   >>>>> Yes   
   >>>>> 4. Is the passage something that is spoken by a   
   >>>>>character?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 5. Does it describe something?   
   >>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>> 6. Is the description connected to Beleriand?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>>7. Is the description connected to Numenor?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 8. Is the description connected to the Third Age?   
   >>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>> 9 About the Palantiri?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 10. A description of a living creature?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 11. About something geographic, like a river, a   
   >>>>> valley, a cave, a mountain?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 12.Does it describe what is being seen by a person   
   >>>>> (or people)?   
   >>>>> Yes.   
   >>>>> 13. Seen by one person (as opposed to a group)?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 14. Elendil's tomb?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 15.  A description of an object created by one or more   
   >>>>> beings belonging to one or more of the Free Peoples (that   
   >>>>> is, elves, humans, hobbits, dwarves, or ents).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Oooh.  This is going to depend on the definition of "an   
   >>>>> object", but I am going to say, Yes.   
   >>>>> 16.  Is at least one of the persons seeing what is being   
   >>>>> described from either the Rohirrim or the people that would   
   >>>>> become the Rohirrim?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> 17.  Is at least one of the persons a Gondorian?   
   >>>>> No.   
   >>>>> It is possible that the wrong intention may have been given by   
   >>>>> an answer.  I will say that I have given the most strict   
   >>>>> interpretation of the question, based on the passage in question   
   >>>>> rather than any interpolation of the situation outside the   
   >>>>> passage. To give a hint, one of your questions was very very warm...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 18.  Is at least one of the persons a Northman?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Given that even I am getting confused, I will expand on the answer.   
   >>>> Clarification of previous comment...   
   >>>> There is at least one or more persons present from either the Rohirrim or   
   >>>> the people that would become the Rohirrim, however the person or persons   
   >>>> seeing what is being described _is not_ from either the Rohirrim or the   
   >>>> people that would become the Rohirrim, nor Gondorian, nor Northmen.   
   >>>> There are no Gondorians or Northmen present.   
   >>>   
   >>> OK I have found my copy of Unfinished tales!   
   >>> 19. Is it in Part 3 Chapter 4, The hunt for the ring?   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >>   
   > 20. Is the thing that is being seen within Rohan?   
      
   Yes.   
      
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   Michael Cole   
      
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