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   Message 68,721 of 70,346   
   Stan Brown to Steve Morrison   
   Re: Spurious quote, or authentic?   
   28 Jan 12 17:21:47   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm   
      
   On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:21:17 -0500, Steve Morrison wrote:   
   >   
   > Stan Brown wrote:   
   >   
   > > I had a dim memory of his criticizing some wartime measures in   
   > > Britain as being behaviour one would expect of Orcs; but though there   
   > > were many occurrences of "behaviour" none was relevant.   
   > >   
   > > Then I started searching for "orc".  Of all that I found, only your   
   > > quote from Letter 71 and this one from Letter 66 seemed relevant:   
      
   [snippatootie]   
   >   
   > It could be you're remembering this, from Letter 81:   
   >   
   [snipperooni]   
      
   I remember it now that you point it out, but that's not what I was   
   thinking of.   
      
   It had to do with some bureaucratic stupidity in wartime England,   
   under the Churchill government.  But I can't remember details.   
      
   A scan for Churchill turns up Letter 53, in which JRRT deplores   
   Churchill's getting in bed with Stalin.  That might be what I was   
   thinking of.  It doesn't say anything remotely like "we are all   
   orcs", but does deplore the apparent turning of the entire world into   
   a copy of America.   
      
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