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   Raven to All   
   Re: Why did Saruman bit fear reribution    
   21 Mar 12 11:42:45   
   
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   From: jon.lennart.beck.its.my.name@mail.its.in.danmark   
      
   "Eruvatar"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   news:4f69021f$0$2076$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com...   
      
   > As Saruman was of the Maia and had obviously seen the power of Eru and   
   > the Valar, why did he not fear their reactions to his base treachery   
   > of his mission to aid others to resist Sauron. I can understand him   
   > wanting to keep Sauron from getting back the ring of power but not to   
   > use it to replace him. Just seems that he would have been afraid of the   
   > consequences of his actions.   
      
      Most likely because he knew that the Valar had given up meddling directly   
   in the affairs of Middle-earth.  His own order, Heren Istarion, were the   
   Valar's last ditch effort against Sauron, and he must have known that.  Just   
   as Sauron believed, as directly stated by Tolkien, that Eru and the Valar   
   had quite given up Middle-earth and that he could therefore do what he liked   
   with it, so presumably Saruman believed that the Powers of the West and   
   Ilúvatar wouldn't meddle anymore.  Loser.   
      
   Korax.   
      
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