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   From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm   
      
   On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:46:54 +0200, Sandman wrote:   
   > In article <2710p716n50fo31dd86fdscckogqmsrqlf@4ax.com>,   
   >  Morgoth's Curse  wrote:   
   > > Remember that Bilbo never knew that his ring was, in   
   > > fact, the Ruling Ring until the Council of Elrond.  Up to that point,   
   > > it was simply a useful magical artifact which was precious to him.   
   >   
   > Huh? Gandalf confirmed it to him in The Shadow of the Past, just after   
   > Gandalf has read out the ring verse:   
   >   
   >     He paused, and then said slowly in a deep voice: ?This is the   
   >     Master-ring, the One Ring to rule them all. This is the One Ring   
   >     that he lost many ages ago, to the great weakening of his power.   
   >     He greatly desires it ? but he must not get it.?   
      
   I believe Gandalf was talking with Frodo, not Bilbo.  In that   
   Chapter, Bilbo is already long gone.   
      
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