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|    Stan Brown to Troels Forchhammer    |
|    Re: Three Hobbit movies: Bad idea    |
|    05 Aug 12 18:43:51    |
      XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien       From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm              On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:59:26 +0200, Troels Forchhammer wrote:       > I do agree that there is more to it than merely crying 'temptation',       > but I think the question is /how/ the Ring tempted Frodo, and how the       > greater power of the Ring changed the manner and strength of the       > temptation. In the end, Frodo gave in to the temptation to put on the       > Ring simply because he no longer had the strength of will to resist       > -- he was utterly spent.       >       > Sorry again -- as I said, this /is/ one of my favourite issues and I       > always tend to say far more than is necessary (or even wanted) :-)       > Feel free to ignore the above.              I will confess that earlier today it did seem like just fuss over two       words that meant the same thing. But when I thought about it I began       to see the difference: Frodo was overcome by something outside       himself; he did not embrace the Ring as say the Witch-King or Saruman       did.              I've compared it to a illness-induced fever, and Steve Morrison       pointed out Letter 191 where Tolkien compared it to brainwashing.              So don't apologize for being very precise on this point. I for one       learned from this discussion much more about what Tolkien meant by       saying Frodo's was not a moral failing. And that after all was a key       point in the book.              --       Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA        http://OakRoadSystems.com       Tolkien FAQs: http://Tolkien.slimy.com (Steuard Jensen's site)       Tolkien letters FAQ:        http://mysite.verizon.net/aznirb/mtr/lettersfaq.html       FAQ of the Rings: http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm       Encyclopedia of Arda: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm       more FAQs: http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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